Thank you. All I'm really asking is how do I generate 24 seed words as safely as possible without hardware?
Said another way. I know there are Bitcoiners who don't ever touch hardware devices. So how do they safely generate their 24 words along with all their addresses.
hey, I was able to reach wicked, and he mentioned this: You can run some terminal commands to get the 24th word but that will only be as secure as the computer you're running it on. Here's a guide https://armantheparman.com/dicev2/
Dice, plus a computer with some linux installed and connectivity disabled. You need the computer because sha256 hash needs to be calculated to give you the 24th word. (Without that, you'd need to test up to 256 different 24th words to find which final word renders a valid seed. But it's reaaly bad to choose your own seed anyways.)The tool mentioned elsewhere, https://github.com/iancoleman/bip39, is good for this. You can save the html file in a pen drive and then, later, load it on the computer without any internet. You can use it to input the dice rolls and it will produce a corresponding seed phrase. Please look for instructions on that for more precise steps. You'll need 99 rolls to get 24 word randomness.
I believe you can save the webpage: https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ as an .html file and move it on a usb drive to the old laptop. then you can use it to enter your 23 words (however you got them-dice, etc) and the webpage will generate the 24th word for you.
I don't know if this is as safe for a significant amount of money. I am not technical at all and I have played around with it for fun mostly. There might be a reason not to do this from a security standpoint.
Get out the dice. Just be sure you know what you're doing.
I've rolled the dice. Now what do I do?
No you haven't :) Read this: https://blog.lopp.net/how-to-securely-create-a-bitcoin-seed-phrase/
First step says to buy a Coldcard. I'm asking how to create the safest setup without a hardware device.
???. You asked how to generate a private key. I don't see anything about safest setup?
Lets forget I said setup. My question still stays the same. What is the safest way to generate a private key without using hardware?
Do you have to run a node with bitcoin core? Is is safe to do it with Sparrow? If I roll dice in the real world where do I put it in online?
I misunderstood what you're asking. This is beyond my area of expertise. Maybe someone else here can give you an answer. Good luck.
Electrum on tails OS - look up Darthcoins guide about not needing a “hardware wallet”
Sorry on mobile can’t link
https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/coldstorage.html
This in an offline computer https://github.com/iancoleman/bip39
what about using an open source offline random number generator and the bip 39 word list of 2048 words, and generate it that way?
flip coins. Tutorial by Wicked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5h7A7kRM8Y
Thank you. The instructions state you need a Coldcard. I want to do this without a hardware device.
the only thing the coldcard does is give 8 options for the 24th word. there must be a way to get those 8 options without a coldcard. I'll ask around
Thank you. All I'm really asking is how do I generate 24 seed words as safely as possible without hardware?
Said another way. I know there are Bitcoiners who don't ever touch hardware devices. So how do they safely generate their 24 words along with all their addresses.
not to sound rude, but why don't you ask them? haha I don't know any bitcoiners who do it without hardware devices else I'd ask myself....
I don't know any personally. Just influencers or anons and none of them will answer me. Hence, Stacker News.
hey, I was able to reach wicked, and he mentioned this: You can run some terminal commands to get the 24th word but that will only be as secure as the computer you're running it on. Here's a guide https://armantheparman.com/dicev2/
This is linked within the guide...you'll have to do sha256 on paper lol. takes a while https://armantheparman.com/sha256/
can you name them? Maybe someone knows them and can reach out
Dice, plus a computer with some linux installed and connectivity disabled. You need the computer because sha256 hash needs to be calculated to give you the 24th word. (Without that, you'd need to test up to 256 different 24th words to find which final word renders a valid seed. But it's reaaly bad to choose your own seed anyways.)The tool mentioned elsewhere, https://github.com/iancoleman/bip39, is good for this. You can save the html file in a pen drive and then, later, load it on the computer without any internet. You can use it to input the dice rolls and it will produce a corresponding seed phrase. Please look for instructions on that for more precise steps. You'll need 99 rolls to get 24 word randomness.
I use an old laptop that stays offline
I have an old laptop. Now what do I do?
Install Tails and use electrum
I believe you can save the webpage: https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ as an .html file and move it on a usb drive to the old laptop. then you can use it to enter your 23 words (however you got them-dice, etc) and the webpage will generate the 24th word for you. I don't know if this is as safe for a significant amount of money. I am not technical at all and I have played around with it for fun mostly. There might be a reason not to do this from a security standpoint.