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[meta] Any input to improve the ~econ territory?

2964 sats \ 17 comments \ @jeff 31 Dec 2023 econ

I'd like to solicit ideas for helping to improve discussion on SN territories in general, by focusing on the ~econ territory specifically.

Naturally, the comment section here works well. But I'm also facilitation anonymous, zero-cost, transient input on a 60-day EtherPad here.

I'll post my own ideas below, to kick off some discussion, and get feedback.

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314 sats \ 4 replies \ @jeff OP 31 Dec 2023

Self Declaring Boolean/Enum Types

Affiliation - Poster is either Affiliated / Unaffiliated - ie, creator or analyst, blogger, etc, or circulating somebody else's content.
Biased - Unbiased / Biased
Political - Nolan Chart Quadrants
Horizon - Short-Term / Long-Term
Freshness - Recent | Historic

Any others?

229 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 31 Dec 2023

Many of my posts include a related article, but also have some of my thoughts or questions that I want to discuss. What would that be for "affiliation"?

I don't think people are capable of being unbiased, so I don't find that tag very helpful. I'd be very skeptical of anyone claiming their content is unbiased.

Can you elaborate on what you're thinking with the "Political" type? I'm intrigued by how that would work and what it would do.

Some more options:

Field: i.e. labor, macro, trade, etc.
School: i.e. Austrian, Chicago, Marxist, etc.
Theory | Empirical

283 sats \ 2 replies \ @jeff OP 31 Dec 2023

If the linked content is not your own, then that tag would be unaffiliated. In that case, it would be fairly evident that the comment is your own. I view it more as a way to self disclose affiliation, eg. A person who links their own blog, and tags it accordingly, then thats cool.

Re: bias, yeah, you are right. Scratch that.

The political tag I was thinking about were more for posts which start to meander into solutions or policy direction/advocacy, or if submissions start dominating the latest popular political narratives...which is maybe premature, but I expect things to go that way.

I'm trying to think about how to get in front of ptoblems observed in other forums. The optionality is different at inception, than once something has matured. A fun experiment, imho.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 31 Dec 2023

I'm torn on the "Politics" declaration.

On one hand, we can use it to safeguard against straw-manning, if we're using it to understand what people are actually arguing for and why.

On the other hand, I worry that it stacks the deck and detracts from the merits of an argument, by making people aware of the tribal affiliation.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jeff OP 31 Dec 2023

Fair.

304 sats \ 3 replies \ @jeff OP 31 Dec 2023

Optional Country Tags

Similar to the other tagging ideas, many posts have a subject country. The list would be finite, and usage would naturally be optional. There are ISO standards for country codes, we could easily use those.

Similarly, the convention would need to emerge as some kind of square-bracket based prefix or suffix.

I actually don't like this idea. But, I suspect I'm in the fringe minority. I want to test my hypothesis by explicitly asking. The reason I don't like it, is because I'm politically against increasing the power of invisible lines on the dirt.

15 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 31 Dec 2023

I also am not particularly interested in tagging countries, beyond including something in the title if it's super specific. Most posts have some general relevance, even if they're ostensibly about a particular country.

293 sats \ 1 reply \ @jeff OP 31 Dec 2023 freebie

On the other hand, I do get triggered by titles which are focused on a single, specific, country, but don't mention the country in the title or even the post.

For this, I'm mulling a commenter-driven tagging solution w/ browser-extension concept.

Eg. If you start a comment with [US], that will allow for after-the-fact tagging. And then that commenter can earn sats for enriching the meta-data about the post.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 31 Dec 2023

That's a cool idea. Sometimes it's a tough call. If an article is talking about Fed policy, that's US specific on one hand, but enormously impactful internationally on another.

Either way, I like titles that clearly describe what's in the post.

293 sats \ 1 reply \ @jeff OP 31 Dec 2023

Optional Currency Tags

Some / many posts, have implications for specific, usually fiat, currencies. The list would be finite, and usage would be optional.

But the convention would need to emerge as some kind of square-bracket based prefix or suffix.

42 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 31 Dec 2023

I try to be specific about which currency a post is about already. I think it's good practice.

283 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 31 Dec 2023

Territory seems fine, honestly. One of the better ones on SN.

The features suggested probably wouldn't hurt, but is the juice worth the squeeze? I personally don't think I'd make much use of them

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 31 Dec 2023

I agree. For the time being, I think there's value in establishing/discussing norms for the territory, but we don't seem to need such formalized features yet.

I like the idea of brainstorming this stuff well in advance of when we need it, though.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 31 Dec 2023

I'm curious what your early impressions are of how ~econ territory is going.

283 sats \ 2 replies \ @jeff OP 31 Dec 2023

I think the "territory protocol" separates content producers from territory owners in a very blunt way. And, there are basically no controls/options/decisions/hooks for the territory owner to make it less blunt. Absent tools, config, plus a material stream of sats, I think we're quite early in the long list of cool things to try.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 31 Dec 2023

From the owner perspective, what seem like the biggest value adds?

283 sats \ 0 replies \ @jeff OP 1 Jan

Do you mean what would be the biggest value add to owners? Assuming so...

I think the biggest value-add as an owner would be programmatic access, interaction, hooks & call-backs. It would be nice to interact with all the objects, create new ones, and extract data programmatically. And then also configure behavior of certain features on SN based on context or history.