You're making me think of a concept in economics called "moral crowding out". There are many things in society that are governed by social sanction rather than monetary fines.
Occasionally, when people try to levy a fine to reduce an undesirable behavior the result is more of the behavior, because the social disincentive was "crowded out" by the monetary disincentive and the social disincentive was stronger. Basically, if you tell me being late to pick up my kid costs $5 I might be more willing to be late than when I just know that I'm inconveniencing you and I don't want to be rude.
I think that's sort of what people have in mind when they say things like "money would ruin the community, or the interaction or something". It also reminds me of how many people don't like the idea of paying kids to do chores or homework. They want the behavior to be more intrinsically motivated.
475 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 30 Jan
Basically, if you tell me being late to pick up my kid costs $5 I might be more willing to be late than when I just know that I'm inconveniencing you and I don't want to be rude.
Ohh, yes, this so much.
Since I don't care so much anymore about being everyone's darling (that was previously the case at least IRL), I actually started to think more in monetary terms.
For example, it used to scare me more to get caught and having to admit that I evaded the fare then actually paying the fine. But now, I am less scared since I would either just admit that I didn't buy a ticket (and get it over with) or even try to "talk" my way out of the situation by stalling and then running out of the train when it stops and the doors open since they probably don't care enough to run after me. And if they would run after me, I think I have the moral high ground again lol.
I think that's sort of what people have in mind when they say things like "money would ruin the community, or the interaction or something". It also reminds me of how many people don't like the idea of paying kids to do chores or homework. They want the behavior to be more intrinsically motivated.
Yeah, I think the fiat system really fucked our relationship with money.
"Money is the root of all evil", they say. But they don't know that the real quote was this:
For the love of money is the root of all evil
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"Money is the root of all evil", they say. But they don't know that the real quote was this: For the love of money is the root of all evil
Is that what psychologists call "transference"? Maybe not, but what a great example of blame shifting. We collectively tuned out the part that carried some personal accountability and selectively heard the part that blamed an inanimate object.
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465 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 30 Jan
Also a great example how we default to trust but don't verify. I think I found out just half a year ago (when I tried to explain bitcoin and SN to my ex-girlfriend) that this is a misquote.
I wonder how many misquotes are out there.
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