Nomadic life comes with pros and cons, and one of the challenges I've been facing forever and continue to face on a regular basis it to find the way to travel KYC free.
Does anyone know a valid process to do so? Where are those neutral territories, those The Continental hotel chains, where John Wick can stay anonymously safe? Any option to cross borders without showing government IDs?
Or am I maybe dreaming about utopia?
Also just reading this that just appeared as related post
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Flying is a privacy hell
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It's the crossing through borders that really irks me (especially airports). I feel so exposed and vulnerable. It's almost like there are no laws to protect you, like some sort of lawless, twilight zone where they can do whatever they want to you a you can't disagree or fight back. I always breathe a sigh of relief when I get through with no hassle, which happens most of the time but I fear that won't last much longer (too many things I don't want to comply with). I love travelling but it's been spoilt.
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Answer yourself some important questions that NOBODY seems to care... What is a "border"? What is a pass-port? When "pass-ports" where invented? What is a country? What is a citizen?
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Nations have always had borders (even if somewhat fuzzy) and 'border control'.
A passport is a modern version of that but the idea of controlling entry into a piece of land that the inhabitants thought of as theirs, or at least that they were the stewards of, has always been there. And if you slipped in somehow, you'd still stand out as soon as you showed your face and be rapidly identified as an 'outsider' simply because of the way you looked, spoke, the fact that nobody knew you, etc. Nations used to be much more homogeneous, a 'border defence' in itself.
A good example of successful border control was the Sakoku period in Japan, where the country's borders were shut down almost completely for over 250 years, while still allowing some very controlled contact with the outside world at a couple of trading ports. This allowed Japan to learn about the outside modern world in a controlled manner (books, especially about western science and technology were still allowed in through the ports), and, I would argue, protected Japan from colonisation, foreign conquest and cultural loss (as happened to the nation directly south of them, The Philippines, and many other Asian nations too).
This is not to necessarily defend the excessive level of policing of borders that some countries now enforce, but the idea of a world with 'open borders' or no borders, as you seem to be suggesting, is an unrealistic one, not just politically but also in the animal and biological realms (e.g. all of the healthy functionings of an organism depend heavily on borders, such as the cell wall, the blood-brain barrier, the skin, etc etc).
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20 sats \ 8 replies \ @mo OP 19 Feb
True is that it is hard to find the balance between learning from the differences and preserving our culture and don't be disrupted. We are control-maniacs... Most of these behaviors are probably just a consequence of fears and the fact we believe land belongs to us. It's probably the inverse, and that's why for me, all this fictional border is just a joke. Anyhow, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Did not know about the restrictiveness of Sakoku period, learned something new today :)
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Where you position yourself in this map?
It's all about how you position yourself and know WHO you are... If you put yourself inside the "state cage", then you are bond to respect the rules imposed by that CORPORATION. States are corporations.
Out entire system is based on people's belief... belief in authority, belief in borders, belief in states etc... We are the slaves of our own belief.
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Mate, that chart wasn't drawn so ppl could 'position' themselves on it.
Plus, you failed to notice that I didn't once talk about states, I talked about nations, which are quite a different concept (so much so that only recently has the idea of the 'nation-state' been propagated).
Finally, you have also failed to engage with the main point that I made - that borders have always existed in the human realm and are a universal phenomenon in other realms too. Borders aren't a question of 'belief'; humans make borders because they observe them everywhere in the physical and biological worlds and understand that they have utility (even existential utility) in human society too. And by existential in the preceding sentence, I mean that sometimes they mean the very assurance of a nation's (not state's) continued survival.
People can go off and build a hermit's hut (or a rather squalid looking hole in the ground), that's fine, there's a long (and sometime noble) tradition of that. But if such ppl think that they can then tell the rest of society that they need to 'follow my higher truth' and abandon all normal functioning of society then they are kidding themselves and in danger of falling into delusion.
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nice to meet you agent Smith...
Indeed! Passports are a very new thing. You are going into deep (for some) territory there because we are born into a system of control that most people never question. I say if you have a passport you are essentially owned by that state. They can call you up to sacrifice your life and force you by threat of violence to do all sorts. It's something I want to do more research on to get more insight. I had a conversation with a teacher the other day and it brought it home to me (once again!) that people think the state owns your children (and it continues from there into adulthood). My kids did not go to school and I have encountered so much attitude. It's been a huge eye-opener to dissect all the many many comments and conversations I've had over the years. They just cannot get their heads around the concept of freedom. I will sit and write about it all properly someday.
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22 sats \ 0 replies \ @mo OP 15 Feb
I will sit and write about it all properly someday.
Looking forward to it!
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You must not travel outside your sovereign being without a passport
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Flying with an airline is a contract. You must respect the contract because are their rules. Nobody is forcing you to fly. Just walk.
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20 sats \ 6 replies \ @mo OP 15 Feb
Yes perfectly fair, wondering if private jets have same requirements
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Did you ever saw any politicians using their passports or crazy rules when they fly? NONE. Why people do not ask these reasonable questions?
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Private jet charter companies have nothing to do with border control. The passengers will have them checked but not lined up in a queue with other peasants.
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Good point! Indeed are some private jets that do not ask questions... It's all about a contract and that contract rules and agreement. Check this out https://www.tapjets.com/
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Wow šŸ‘€
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Wow indeed. But before you go and book yourself a private jet, think of all the bitcoin you could buy with that. Back to walking with you! šŸš¶ā€ā™€ļø
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they accept Bitcoin
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you know perfectly well that it's not the airline that makes these rules. These are legal impositions.
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Does private jets landings require ID too? Or better to land on private properties only and avoid public airports?
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you are getting closer to the truth... :)
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You still have to land at a port of entry and clear customs
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The birds don't have to do that. Identify as a bird...
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That's a good one. I'm still having the passport of my cat, I may use that ext time šŸ˜†
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@Natalia and some others nomads here can give more insight. Sorry I am on the "other side", I like to be in a stable place, building and defending my citadel where I am.
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lucky you that can stay safe without all these head hakes! Are you planning any landing lines or helipad in your citadel?
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Any option to cross borders without showing government IDs?
Yes, fake pappers, they are expensive..
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No. Make your own ID. Why do you have to do twice the fraud?
  1. govID is a fraud - they force you to believe you are the one in the papers, when in fact in those papers is a dead body.
  2. using fake govID is the fraud of a fraud - that means you live in total dishonor.
Or am I maybe dreaming about utopia?
No, is possible but you need education in this matter and a lot of balls.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @mo OP 15 Feb
No, is possible but you need education in this matter and a lot of balls.
This is nice to know, the solution feels so far away!
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please pay attention to all I said in this guide... you will find your own way... towards sovereignty. https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/natural-law-and-bitcoin
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well, if you want to trick gov, then a good EU passport will work. I saw it..
If you want to make your own pappers you will be attacked by the gov..
Use translator to have a good laugh
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if you want to trick gov,
You still don't get it... Is not about to trick a gov... is about to rebut their authority over you the living man.
Use translator to have a good laugh
You still don't get it. Sad that you laugh at this. Show us that we are so early and people still want to be shitizen slaves. Please go back to your cage.
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10 sats \ 2 replies \ @fm 15 Feb
is about to rebut their authority over you the living man.
I get that.. But people here are getting jail time over that.. There are some cases based on that republic i sent previously Not my strugle..
Here people can get jail time over rap songs as well.. So, the state doesnt take very well this sovereign current
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only dumb people go to jail...
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and criminals and some innocents.. you have a bit of everything
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. Sad that you laugh at this
it was an ironical way.. a figure of speech.. Not that i find that funny
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You are still sheep, just because you bring up those silly arguments... You are literally this sheep.
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, just because you bring up those silly arguments...
what arguments you mean? I just said i like to pick my figths.. and living undoccumented in EU is not my figth
Either way, its nice to have you back
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and living undoccumented in EU is not my figth
LOL are you consider yourself a piece of paper, a document? No wonder were today in such a deep shit, when living w/man consider themselves a piece of paper...
There's no such thing as "undocumented", that is ONLY when you want to enter in a contract with somebody else (corporation or other person). If you consider yourself a "person" and not a living man, then sorry you get what you fucking deserve - SLAVERY.
Well.. I said KYC free... If you replace a paper for another, you are still playing the same dirty game
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there is no such thing as KYC free travel.
either you play the matrix or the matrix play you..
well, this being said, there are parts of the world that arent claimed as countries..
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @mo OP 15 Feb
man, I feel sorry for you if you really believe that!
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go ahead and travel undoccumented then.. No need to feel sorry. I manage well my travels.
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Hi nomads
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the legend! Hi 5 šŸ¤™ PV šŸ§”āš”ļø
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Central America and the Golden Triangle in SE Asia both regions have fluid lawless borders. Or so I have heard.
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Tell me something about how you pull off living as a nomad.
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Never been able to be a slave or to play that role, I tried... but never worked out. Forget your daily rate and embrace V4V. That's it!
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I'll send you a PM.
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If you get into EU, you can travel across the entire zone without kyc using trains ;-)
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10 sats \ 7 replies \ @mo OP 15 Feb
EU is just another grad luna park. Law enforcers can always stop you at any moment and ask for a legit ID. As I'm now reading here, the ignorance of the majority, forces sovereign individuals to be in jail without justice or checks. The approach is always "Just in case you're wrong, we jail you until you prove yourself right"
But yes, if you agree to EU slavery, even as foreign tourist for only 1-3 months, you are free to pasture across fictional EU's nations borders.
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Not in US...4th amendment, tell cops to pound sand
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pound sand?
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Sorry USA colloquialismsā€¦pound sand = fuck off, piss off, go to hell, etc
No ā€œpapers, please!ā€ Here, especially now with cell phones. They need a ā€œreasonable, articulable suspicionā€ that you are ā€œcommitting, or about to commit a crime.ā€ If there isnā€™t one, then they threaten to arrest you for not showing ID, then fat lawsuit against the municipality they work for.
One is under no obligation to ID even while open-carrying a rifle or pistol. Many cops, however, donā€™t know the law, and got away with it. Now there are a lot of constitutional ā€œauditorsā€ that record encounters with police, and sue the department if their rights are violated. The police can no longer get away with lying in court when there is video evidence.
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That can happen anywhere tbh.
EU slavery, lol. Have you looked at some of the countries? Italy has a huge black economy and market. There's quite some countries like this where you can live in perfect freedom and anonymity. You literally don't want to know how many "illegals" reside in my country without ever leaving.
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Illegal immigrants in Europe or USA ?
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have you lived there? I mean, living... not holidaying! True is that you can live on cash and access some weird stuff with it, the level of corruption is over my head. Illegal people living there believe me aren't having funny times, but probably better than the countries they escaped from.
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Not true, many long distance trains in europe require kyc for ticket purchase
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Often you can still buy tickets without kyc at the stations.
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