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We are talking March Madness today and I need some input. I don't follow much college basketball, aside from having an idea who the top ranked teams are, but I have always been a fan of the March Madness tournament.
@siggy47, @Undisciplined and I were talking about creating a March Madness survivor pool so I am tagging everyone who participated in the NFL survivor pool and the NBA in season tournament survivor pool for input and to gauge interest in this pool.
Rather than doing a traditional bracket competition we thought it would be fun to do another survivor pool. However, with only 6 rounds of games and 64 teams I think everyone is just going to pick top seeds all the way unless we structure the pool to encourage a wider variety of picks.
An idea proposed by undisciplined would assign point value of winning picks based on their seed. So if in the round of 64 I pick a number 1 seed and they win I get 1 point but if you pick a number 15 seed and they win you get 15 points. Of course if you pick 15 and lose you are out. My only concern with this format would be everyone might blow themselves up in the first couple rounds trying to build a lead or catch someone who hit on a big underdog and we have a pool that ends before the sweet 16 even begins. But let me know your thoughts on this idea.
Remembering you can only pick a team once, I thought a good idea would be to make the first round a 4 pick round, the round of 32 a 2 pick round and then from the round of 16 on it's one pick per round. This way if someone wants to use all the one seeds in the first round they can but then they are gone from the rest of the tournament. The drawback I see from this is we could also have a lot of people exiting early if they have to pick four games. One big upset and it could end the pool. Maybe the first two rounds could be two picks instead of 4 and 2.
Or we could simply just play it straight up with a couple of strong tiebreakers at the end and if everyone is picking top 3 seeds all the way so be it. The main tiebreaker could relate to seeding somehow so the person who picks only top seeds throughout has less of a chance to win.
Please let me know if you are interested in participating and your ideas on what the format should be if you do plan to participate.
There will be no buy in. The pool will be structured the same way the NBA in-season tournament pool was structured where the payout is the total of sats collected by the Pool posts. I will guarantee a 10k sat payout if we don't collect 10k but hopefully we will collect much more and have a nice payout for the winner.
Sats for all, GR
I don't have much preference in terms of format and will join in on whatever you guys decide. Let's have some fun through the madness!
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Or we could simply just play it straight up with a couple of strong tiebreakers at the end and if everyone is picking top 3 seeds all the way so be it.
I actually think this is the right approach for our first attempt at March Madness. Keep it as simple as possible and we can try out off-the-wall ideas next year based on how it goes.
How about a tie-breaker of who left the highest ranked team unpicked? If two participants literally pick exactly the same slate, then do point differential or something.
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50 sats \ 3 replies \ @Wumbo 21 Feb
I am in.
Random thought: Give some extra points to each stacker for reaching the next round.
Reach 32 round get 1 point added to your total Reach 16 round get 2 point added to your total.
May help keep people from shooting for the moon with a 16 seed.
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So you would advocate for a point based system but have some incentive to offset potential moonshots. Interesting.
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50 sats \ 1 reply \ @Wumbo 21 Feb
I am just spit balling.
I kind of like the thought of a pure point system where a stacker could win the pool even if they go out before the championship game.
Example: Stacker A correctly picks 16 seed in 1st round, 14 seed in the 2nd, 15 seed in the 3rd. Then picks in Incorrectly in the 4th round and is out of the pool.
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Stacker B correctly picks only 1 & 2 seeds and survivals till the end of the poll.
In the above example at some point I would want stacker A to win because of the much better job picking (when adjusted for risk).
Just a thought and I will participate no matter what rules are selected.
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I like it too but it's not really a survivor pool then. I do like it though. We might need multiple pools. Haha
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@grayruby - sorry been less active lately. What about doing "Squares". For the entire tournament. Everyone gets assigned/buys in and gets random winner-loser numbers 0-9. You keep those numbers throughout the entire tournament and have a chance at winning in each game. Each round is worth a different amount. I have an Excel spreadsheet I built to do this a few years ago I can probably dig up and find if interested.
Edit to add, I'm in for any format.
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I am open to this idea as well. Maybe we will do both if there is enough interest.
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50 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 21 Feb
I don't have strong opinions on the form, but I'm in whatever you decide.
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Ok at least we know 3 of us are participating. Haha.
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i'm down. i don't know dick about college basketball, or pro for that matter, but i usually do a march madness bracket. my vote as far as format would probably just be the standard bracket, but i'm sure i can figure it out if we land on something weird
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Good. Maybe you will lose one for once. Haha
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