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The Anti-Smartphone Revolutionwww.youtube.com/watch?v=02mIRnPJm6g
20 sats \ 8 comments \ @Majjin 26 Jul 2022 bitcoin
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 26 Jul 2022
And how you are going to use bitcoin? Nowadays, if you do not have at least an android 9 or 10 most of BTC/LN wallet apps do not work. Just use a regular smartphone de-googled and done. Don't be so paranoia.
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Majjin OP 26 Jul 2022
While privacy is a part of it, I think most people are ditching smartphones due to how addicting and distracting social media, games, and general browsing can be. So its more about self control and reducing distractions than it is about paranoia.
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5 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 26 Jul 2022
You can achieve a good level of privacy EXACTLY by ditching those games, apps, social media shit etc and just keep strictly necessary on a smartphone: BTC wallets. Going full anti-smartphones is paranoia if you can't control yourself.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Majjin OP 26 Jul 2022
Again, I think privacy is just a side note here. Not the main point.
For some people, using a dumb phone is exactly how they control themselves. Its not that common but they exist. Knowing your limits and what works for you isn't paranoia in my opinion. For those people (and those who can't afford a smartphone), I would love to see a feature phone that has a bitcoin wallet built in.
Using a de-googled device strictly for Bitcoin is a good idea if they can keep themselves from using it for any other purpose. Otherwise, they can use a PC that stays at home to transact in Bitcoin.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 26 Jul 2022
a feature phone that has a bitcoin wallet built in.
That's almost impossible. Nowadays apps require some certain level of OS to support all btc wallet app features. Seems that you don't know how these things works.
they can use a PC that stays at home to transact in Bitcoin.
Again you show lack of understanding of how using bitcoin works. Yes, you can spend btc from a desktop PC, but first and foremost bitcoin is CASH MONEY, that means you need to be able to spend them on the street. You can't take your PC with you to buy groceries. On a PC you are managing your cache wallets, NOT regular spending wallets. On a PC you manage your hodl wallets, NOT daily spending wallets. On a mobile device you use mobile LN wallets to spend daily. And is not really necessary to be a full smartphone. Is enough to have an internet connection and ignore all the rest, to be able to have a simple LN wallet app. And your privacy is not violated at all.
Use the 3 levels of stashing BTC:
  • hodl - cold wallets, your central bank that barely move BTC, mostly receive
  • cache - where you have IN/OUT funds, coin control, commercial bank, managing between hodl and spending
  • mobile/spending - mobile apps with LN
Done.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Majjin OP 26 Jul 2022
  1. My brother in Christ I am not talking about privacy! I am talking about addiction and self control. Set privacy aside for a second here.
  2. A feature phone CAN have a bitcoin wallet built into it. Its a computer just like a smartphone, but less capable. If it can have a simple web browser built into it, it can have a wallet. It won't be a wallet that currently exists mind you. It would have to be built to be compatible with the phone's OS. Not impossible.
  3. Just because someone doesn't use Bitcoin the way you recommend it, doesn't mean they don't understand Bitcoin. I use it exactly the way you recommend it, but that system wouldn't work for someone who doesn't want a smartphone.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Majjin OP 26 Jul 2022
Having a dumb phone, feature phone, or shaved down smartphone seems to be getting more popular. I personally think this is a good thing because our phones should be a tool, not a way of life. I don't have a feature or dumb phone, but my smartphone has the Before Launcher and I've uninstalled as many apps as I could. Digital Minimalism is the way.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @lipinip235 26 Jul 2022
Me too. I'm in the minority that uses the phone just to communicate: calls and messaging. I installed LineageOS to have a plain Android without all the useless crap phones come with. To me, it's better to use other devices (tablet, laptop, etc.) to play, browse, watch videos or any other thing people do on their phone's tiny screen nowadays--- all day long.
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