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1385 sats \ 9 comments \ @Undisciplined 16 Apr mostly_harmless

This is an interesting clip of Jordan Peterson's interview with Vivek Ramaswamy. Vivek points out that there's more going on with how the corporate press uses clips out of context than just conducting disingenuous smear jobs. Another objective is to disincentivize the types of long-form discussions that make people vulnerable to such an attack.

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In this excerpt from our most recent podcast with Vivek Ramaswamy, he and Dr. Peterson discuss his run-in with the Atlantic, how they purposely removed context from his interview, and why the establishment media attempts to kill nuance and long form discussion.

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148 sats \ 4 replies \ @elvismercury 17 Apr

That guy is really well-spoken. I've heard a few hours of him at this point and have found everything he said between reasonable and pretty cool. But people I know who watch a lot more media than I do -- including, I suppose, less-curated appearances of his, talk about him as a giant asshole. Is there something for which his assholishness is well-known?

Anyway, compelling video.

27 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 17 Apr

Were those people mainstream Republicans or Democrats by any chance?

He went at Nikki Haley very aggressively in the debates and that really triggered the establishment.

40 sats \ 2 replies \ @elvismercury 17 Apr

Nope. Pretty heterodox people, but allergic to demogoguery and bullshit. Hard to get away from those latter no matter where you go.

54 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined OP 17 Apr

Ok, then they were probably put off by his very direct and confrontational style. When it's directed at neocons, I love it, but if it were directed at human persons I would also think he was an asshole.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @elvismercury 17 Apr

That seems a likely explanation, and is a common failure mode for me: somebody bringing the storm on stuff that I hate, and I'm excited and ready to fall in behind their banner, but they continue to bring the storm vs some hapless gas station worker, the unemployed, and assorted people struggling to improve their circumstances, and I'm like: nope, you're no different, you just have better rhetoric.

40 sats \ 1 reply \ @026180d3a3 16 Apr

Is the answer "because they are in bed with certain deep state apparatuses that pay them"? Cause, that's the answer.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 16 Apr

There are other layers to the answer, but that's definitely a big part of it.

40 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 16 Apr

The goal is the agenda, not knowledge. The goal is indoctrination, not enlightenment. The goal is training, not teaching.

55 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 16 Apr

Right, and the enemy is highly visible long-form open discussions.

edit: should have said "primary threat" rather than "enemy"