With the Phoenix news this past week, I was curious where people are migrating to for self-custodial LN? Tried Zeus out and didn't have a great experience thus far :/
Zeus24.0%
Mutiny25.3%
Breeze25.3%
Other25.3%
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93 sats \ 27 replies \ @orthwyrm 1 May
Still use 'em.
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147 sats \ 25 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 May
Yeah, I don't know why US people are so chicken shit scared. They just have to use it PROPERLY without any app store shit.
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64 sats \ 13 replies \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May
I was worried Phoenix would start blocking US users within the app, similar to WoS. Can they do that or am I just paranoid?
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280 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 1 May
- Save your phoenix seed.
- Uninstall from app store (because is linked to your account)
- Install app from their github, without any fucking app store https://github.com/ACINQ/phoenix/releases
- Restore from seed. All funds will be there.
- Run it with Tor activated. Done, be happy and ignore all the shit.
If you still use an apple shit, drop it now and take an android, de-googled.
I really do not understand why people cannot do these simple steps?
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 1 May
This
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60 sats \ 10 replies \ @Signal312 1 May
On WoS, it looks like you can SEND out, in the US, but you can't receive. You get a notice "region not supported".
I wonder, if after May 5th, or whenever it is that Phoenix is officially shutting down, they will also do this.
I was thinking of trying to use a VPN. I've received some advice to NOT do that, since lightning is kind of finicky anyway, and anything that adds complexity will cause problems.
Do you folks have thoughts on VPN with Phoenix? Honestly, I'd rather just stick with Phoenix, if I can.
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44 sats \ 6 replies \ @orthwyrm 1 May
VPNs are fine. It's only Tor that can be slow to connect at times.
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61 sats \ 1 reply \ @Signal312 1 May
Recommended VPNs?
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61 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 May
by @Natalia #259866
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50 sats \ 3 replies \ @Signal312 1 May
Ok, for the complete newbie doesn't use VPNs...what's the best vpn to use?
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60 sats \ 0 replies \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May
Mullvad is great (can pay via LN too)
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60 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 May
proton or mulvad or lnvpn are OK
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50 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May
Proton is easy to use and secure and private
Is it the best? Probably not but good enough and reasonable price
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60 sats \ 1 reply \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May
Yes that's what I meant originally. If I can't receive the wallet is useless, but I dont know if Phoenix can even prevent people from receiving like WoS. I'm not concerned about loss of funds.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May
Run a test
Send or post invoice here
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @03365d6a53 1 May
never go online without a vpn
lightning works fine, as does everything else
mullvad are good
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10 sats \ 2 replies \ @orthwyrm 1 May
Yes, still an excellent app.
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70 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 1 May
They are too in love with their crap iShit phones 😂😂😂😂
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @orthwyrm 1 May
Seems that way...
I don't get it.
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25 sats \ 6 replies \ @siggy47 1 May
You can look at it another way. It's Phoenix who is chicken shit scared. Maybe people want to support wallets who don't surrender so quickly.
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104 sats \ 0 replies \ @Signal312 2 May
I can see moving away eventually - even soon. But all the new options take time and energy to understand. I need to have a working wallet over the next couple months.
I can definitely see that I need to have multiple options in the near future though...
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64 sats \ 4 replies \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May
This. I dont really blame Phoenix (especially since they're not US-based) but man they just pulled the trigger so quick.
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15 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 1 May
Right. It was so fast. They moved before Wasabi, whose decision was more understandable.
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54 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May
They must have a small legal team and a small legal budget
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 2 May
They're ASINQ, one of the biggest, well funded players out there.
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54 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May
Thanks for responding
They definitely panicked because their lawyers told them to.
Maybe it’s better to have no lawyers lol
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @itsMoro 1 May
people freaking out over app store pullout, and subsequently begging for customer service ( customer service, in btc? ??) help due to ' losing their money' while their on chain transaction was in the mempool was fking sad and so ngmi. a voluntary app store pullout is like .000001 / 100 for regulatory attacks and apparently no one has any sense what holding ur own keys means after all this time.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May
Can you receive and send USA users?
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126 sats \ 5 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 May
Nice try, fed.
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51 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 1 May
Snuck in, didn't you?
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64 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 May
I've gotten a couple in today.
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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @PlebeiusG 1 May
Came here to say this... zap for you sir
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31 sats \ 1 reply \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May
Can't say I didn't try tho!
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15 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 May
Don't hate the player. Hate the game.
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110 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 1 May
Zeus, Blixt, and Blink.
I mainly use Phoenix for checking currency convert. 🙊
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70 sats \ 7 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 May
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @cyberpunk02 1 May
Walletano! yay!
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May
What is next to mutiny on third row?
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10 sats \ 4 replies \ @OtillaOnlyBTC 2 May
To the right of Mutiny in that pic is Electrum.
I don't know what's to the left.
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 2 May
That means:
- you didn't read Darthcoin guides
- you have much more to learn about bitcoin wallets
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May
Which wallet is next to mutiny on your pyramid?
Can you link your guide? Substack?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May
Valet
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May
I like mutiny
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66 sats \ 2 replies \ @MiddleWay 1 May
Blixt. Neutrino LND node in your phone, can open channels to whoever you like. If you also run Umbrel etc node in your home (like I do) you can open zero-confirnation private channel to it for ultimate security. Your family and friends can also be your node's clients with such a setup.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May
What's your experience with them?
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @MiddleWay 1 May
Very positive, I use it for a while. It's an open source app for Apple and Android. There is no central server, the seed phrase is standard. It is very configurable, maybe not as user friendly as Phoenix, but you get full control.
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26 sats \ 2 replies \ @nerd2ninja 1 May
Blixt just got completely forgotten from this list lol
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May
I forgot about Blixt! Was going through the accounts I frequently see on twitter/nostr haha. How's the experience?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nerd2ninja 1 May
Uh its great for someone who understands how the lightning network works and enjoys full control of all the settings (including whether to use convenience options or not).
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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @riberet19 1 May
Zeus wallet!
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500 sats \ 4 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May
Mutiny and Zeus but I recommend mutiny
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110 sats \ 3 replies \ @030a29f333 OP 2 May
I really like Mutiny's team and the direction they're going. Pace of development is awesome.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May
I recently started with Fedi
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @030a29f333 OP 2 May
Personally very excited about all things ecash
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5 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 2 May
Same here
Lot of potential to explore
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15 sats \ 1 reply \ @raymond50romero 1 May
When I first Zeus I didn’t really like it either but it slowly grew on me over time. Now that’s the only wallet I use aside from my cold storage.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May
Zeus is still cool to me, just got a bad experience when I was force closed on my first tx 😭
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5 sats \ 0 replies \ @jp30566347 2 May
I'm just tired of finding the "best" options... I think I'll just connect Zeus to my own node but I have no idea what I'm doing... (yet)
I want to onboard friends & potential customers.
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5 sats \ 1 reply \ @godlikeXi 1 May
Nunya. Nunya business.
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20 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 1 May
I think we have a winner
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8 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 1 May
I still have phoenix as I am in Canada but I have Breeze and Zeus as well. Haven't tried Mutiny yet. Sorry Tony. Soon.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @dynamic_equilibrium 2 May
“United States sub-citizens, which wallet should we ban next?”
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nullama 2 May
Why not use the apk directly from github though?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SatoshiP2P 2 May
blixt wallet
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 1 May
coinbase?
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @itsrealfake 1 May
channel closed :)
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @030a29f333 OP 1 May
2 closes actually
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