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Yeah, I don't know why US people are so chicken shit scared. They just have to use it PROPERLY without any app store shit.

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I was worried Phoenix would start blocking US users within the app, similar to WoS. Can they do that or am I just paranoid?

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  1. Save your phoenix seed.
  2. Uninstall from app store (because is linked to your account)
  3. Install app from their github, without any fucking app store https://github.com/ACINQ/phoenix/releases
  4. Restore from seed. All funds will be there.
  5. Run it with Tor activated. Done, be happy and ignore all the shit.

If you still use an apple shit, drop it now and take an android, de-googled.

I really do not understand why people cannot do these simple steps?

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This

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On WoS, it looks like you can SEND out, in the US, but you can't receive. You get a notice "region not supported".

I wonder, if after May 5th, or whenever it is that Phoenix is officially shutting down, they will also do this.

I was thinking of trying to use a VPN. I've received some advice to NOT do that, since lightning is kind of finicky anyway, and anything that adds complexity will cause problems.

Do you folks have thoughts on VPN with Phoenix? Honestly, I'd rather just stick with Phoenix, if I can.

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Yes that's what I meant originally. If I can't receive the wallet is useless, but I dont know if Phoenix can even prevent people from receiving like WoS. I'm not concerned about loss of funds.

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Run a test

Send or post invoice here

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never go online without a vpn

lightning works fine, as does everything else

mullvad are good

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Ok, for the complete newbie doesn't use VPNs...what's the best vpn to use?

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Mullvad is great (can pay via LN too)

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proton or mulvad or lnvpn are OK

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Proton is easy to use and secure and private

Is it the best? Probably not but good enough and reasonable price

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Recommended VPNs?

You can look at it another way. It's Phoenix who is chicken shit scared. Maybe people want to support wallets who don't surrender so quickly.

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I can see moving away eventually - even soon. But all the new options take time and energy to understand. I need to have a working wallet over the next couple months.

I can definitely see that I need to have multiple options in the near future though...

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This. I dont really blame Phoenix (especially since they're not US-based) but man they just pulled the trigger so quick.

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Right. It was so fast. They moved before Wasabi, whose decision was more understandable.

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They must have a small legal team and a small legal budget

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They're ASINQ, one of the biggest, well funded players out there.

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Thanks for responding

They definitely panicked because their lawyers told them to.

Maybe it’s better to have no lawyers lol

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people freaking out over app store pullout, and subsequently begging for customer service ( customer service, in btc? ??) help due to ' losing their money' while their on chain transaction was in the mempool was fking sad and so ngmi. a voluntary app store pullout is like .000001 / 100 for regulatory attacks and apparently no one has any sense what holding ur own keys means after all this time.

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They are too in love with their crap iShit phones πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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Can you receive and send USA users?

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