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Proton Mail Discloses User Data Leading to Arrest in Spain restoreprivacy.com/protonmail-discloses-user-data-leading-to-arrest-in-spain/

1616 sats \ 28 comments \ @sefiro 6 May privacy

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84 sats \ 8 replies \ @Signal312 7 May

Here's some of the privacy recommendations from the article for when using proton mail:

For users concerned about privacy, particularly those involved in sensitive or political activities, OPSEC should be a top concern when using privacy tools. It’s advisable to:

Avoid linking recovery emails or phone numbers that can directly tie back to personal identities or primary business activities.
Consider using secondary, disposable emails or virtual phone numbers that offer an additional layer of anonymity.
Use a good VPN service to hide your IP address whenever possible. (Failure to do this is what compromised a Proton Mail user in France who was arrested after after police obtained IP logs.)
Consider purchasing services using an anonymous payment method.
Stay informed about the legal obligations and policies of communication service providers, especially regarding their compliance with international law enforcement requests.

777 sats \ 7 replies \ @orthwyrm 7 May

good advice.

it's very easy to sign up to protonmail using a burner email from, say, guerrillamail.

unfortunately all email providers are honeypots and will eventually be compromised, so best bet really is to partition your accounts in such a way that dubious activities are not linked to anything that could reveal your identity... i.e. keep the email you use for amazon away from anything "important".

70 sats \ 6 replies \ @anon 7 May

777 sats \ 5 replies \ @orthwyrm 7 May

@nemo is that you

777 sats \ 4 replies \ @carlosfandango 7 May

Gotta be lol

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @anon 7 May

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77 sats \ 1 reply \ @orthwyrm 7 May

good to see you buddy

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 7 May

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77 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 7 May

lol indeed :)

77 sats \ 2 replies \ @siggy47 7 May

This isnt the first time. Sometimes I think about switching to Tutanota, but that might be more of the same. I actually did a post comparing the two on here a LONG time ago, I think.

72 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 8 May

Email is not secure. Stories like this are good though. I think Proton is misunderstood. No one is going to jail for you. If you think they will you are kidding yourself. IMO proton is fine but you need to understand what its good for.

160 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 7 May

No perfect solution, only trade offs

48 sats \ 6 replies \ @Satosora 6 May

oh man, does this mean it isnt as private as they say? Gmail might just work the same if they are handing over people. Whats the point of privacy?

39 sats \ 2 replies \ @itsMoro 7 May freebie

while i agree its frustrating, proton is worlds better than gmail for privacy. contents are still encrypted, there is only certain info that is available for authorities to request.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Satosora 7 May

I guess that is a plus, but it still means it is vulnerable.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @itsMoro 7 May freebie

the answer in the long run is to use email for nothing sensitive ( easier said than done) and hopefulky alternatives get more adoption.

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @Hamstr 7 May

the point is the government can make requests. whereas gmail openly and freely gives the data

1 sat \ 1 reply \ @Satosora 7 May

The thing is, with all these tech companies and everything asking for information, eventually something is going to be leaked. Security will be lost and all the data will flow.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @Hamstr 7 May

ehh, that's kinda pessimist thinking. The thing is it's free, email is free by gmail, msn, yahoo etc. If everyone self hosted you have true control over your data because now you aren't counting on third parties to convey your message. and email, in general just sucks

48 sats \ 6 replies \ @Coinsreporter 7 May

That's an anticlimax.

Proton mail is still the safest yet it is vulnerable, it's time to find some sovereign place that does not fall under any jurisdiction, so as to avoid any breach in privacy.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 7 May

Its hard. Maybe they are in the wrong place. Imagine if they were in UAE, they probably wouldnt have to comply. I know it is safer than others....I guess we will have to wait and see who else makes something more secure.

21 sats \ 4 replies \ @Hamstr 7 May

I think the only way out is self-host your own email server

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kingzing131 7 May

I have read it's pretty impossible to engage anyone with self hosting email now. like so many normie email client would just refuse your email or something

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @SpaceHodler 7 May

How would that work? You'd need a domain, which would link to your IP address, no?

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 7 May

I'm not sure but this may help.

#174042

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @nullama 7 May

Satoshi Nakamoto bought bitcoin.org and netcoin.org anonymously somehow.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 7 May

https://www.city-journal.org/article/signals-katherine-maher-problem

42 sats \ 0 replies \ @megaptera 7 May

Proton even tell you to use their onion service to prevent this.

There is a difference between security/privacy, and anonymity. As we wrote in our public threat model(new window) (published back in 2014), “The Internet is generally not anonymous, and if you are breaking Swiss law, a law-abiding company such as Proton Mail can be legally compelled to log your IP address.” This cannot be changed due to how the internet works. However, we understand this is concerning for individuals with certain threat models, which is why since 2017, we also provide an onion site for anonymous access (we are one of the only email providers that supports this).

https://proton.me/blog/climate-activist-arrest