friends came to visit and I learned something really interesting, we talked about the crypto group VS Bitcoiners, actually it all come down to what people want:

Crypto group: holidays in all inclusive private resorts, sending kids to private schools, basically being able to afford all those top fiat things, but they don't realized that these things are all designed by others, you might be at the top of the food chain but still you are in it.

Bitcoiners: freedom, being left alone to do whatever they want, much happier even to homeschool their own kids, basically out of the food chain, and this is a much harder path, few dare to explore, but that's a whole new world of possibilities out there.