Day 2! It's Sunday, and San Benito is very quiet. Many places are closed, but the shopping centers are full of people.
Merchant experiences: πŸ” I'm following BTCMap's recommendations now and come across a good burger place for lunch, where I can pay with sats without a problem. First time coming across somebody using DitoBanx. πŸ›’ At Super Selectos, one of the largest supermarket chains in the country, there is a special belt for those wanting to pay with Bitcoin. Like using cash in Scandinavia! To pay with sats, the manager has to be called, a computer mouse has to be plugged into the PoS device (the mouse barely works). The manager has to log into a Chivo web interface, enter the payment amount, select Bitcoin, then Lightning. The process takes quite a while, and people behind me quickly change lanes. After my payment succeeds, it still takes a while to show up as received in the web browser, and the staff have to do some manual accounting. They are far from amused and don't say good bye. 🏧 I come across a Chivo ATM and try my luck. My home SIM does not have reception, so I can't receive the verification SMS. At this point I should have given up, but I pay 4000 sats for a temporary number through SMS4Sats. Luckily the SMS from Chivo never arrives, because if I had successfully made the onchain transaction to Chivo, I wouldn't have been able to re-verify myself using the same number after two onchain confirmations and claim my cash. There are two (2!) Chivo staff present who are friendly, but of course can't do anything. 🍟 I'm back at WcDonald's (yes, the sign has a W instead of a M, some kind of Japan promotion?). I notice that the Lightning invoice shows up very briefly when selecting 'paying with Bitcoin' before the screen goes blank, and I manage to scan and pay it, but the system is still frozen. Staff "trust" me I paid and hand me my order. They also tell me I can pay with Bitcoin at the counter! Why didn't I think of that! So I make another order, go to the counter only to find out that this option is limited to Chivo users. πŸ₯© For dinner I choose a Peruvian restaurant nearby. The food is pretty good, and I ask to settle the bill with Bitcoin. They are very confident in being able to do it, but the manager still has to receive instructions over the phone on how to process payments. πŸͺ I go back to a convenience store where I paid with Bitcoin successfully yesterday. This time staff knows exactly what they are doing and the 85c transaction goes through quickly, without any sighs, awkward silence or me holding up the line. It's clear that if only people regularly used it, staff were naturally trained to handle it smoothly. 🍸 The local brewery, which takes sats, is sadly closed tonight, so I walk over to the Sheraton as it's marked on BTCMap, and am being laughed out through the door.
San Salvador: I take the public bus for 25c to the old town, passing crowded shopping malls and otherwise empty streets. The old town is quite nice, and it's clear from the construction around that it will be even nicer in a year. There are many people around, including foreign tourists and tour groups. I enter the newly constructed library, complete with Chinese flag out front. Much of El Salvador's recent infrastructure development is completed by Chinese companies and subsidized by various Chinese government-linked development funds. This trend precedes Bukele and is also a reward for El Salvador officially recognizing the People's Republic of China in 2018 (and ditching diplomatic relations with Taiwan). Other examples that I saw where the indoor sports stadium, the outdoor sports stadium and the airport. Quality seems to be relatively okay, and I hope these buildings last. What immediately sticks out upon entering the library: There are almost no books. Instead, there are video games, children's games, a Star Wars exhibition and Japanese comic book figures. I'm very curious how the old town will look like in a year or three, because it has a lot of potential. For now, there are almost no cafes or restaurants around, and those that do exist don't look inviting. There's nothing of interest to buy at the local market, but it's easy to see how this can be a major tourist spot eventually. Wherever I go, San Salvador feels save and is surprisingly walkable (although nobody walks). There is little police presence, but you never have the impression that you are in a police state. In San Benito, this feeling of safety extends well into the night, although the area just doesn't feel welcoming with its high walls and barbed wire.
The Lightning Network: Compared to my previous trips, and apart from the Chivo ATM, Lightning payments are very much the standard now, and everybody handling a wallet seems to know that. It's also noteworthy how none of my payments took more than a few seconds or had to be re-attempted. For those using Lightning for a while, it's really remarkable how reliable payments have become, and it seems services operating in El Salvador know how to manager their inbound liquidity. My LND node is running on a small VPS with 2GB RAM, it only has two channels, both of which are over 1.5 years old. Go run your own node! Yesterday I had this node connected to Zeus wallet over Lightning Node Connect (LNC), but for today I switched over a vanilla REST connection, and given the relative poor connectivity of my eSIM, this was a huge improvement. LNC is a huge improvement over connecting to your node over Tor, and on a fast and stable internet connection it's comparable with vanilla REST, while being far easier to set up.
320 sats \ 4 replies \ @anon 27 May
I'm thoroughly enjoy these posts.
However, reading this second post, it feels very clear that El Salvador isn't as advanced on the adoption front as I thought it was.
Going forward, why not eschew all the usual suspects and just go really local? Why not reach out to some El Salvador bitcoiners and let them guide you to find locals who are using bitcoin?
I live in an area (in a different country) where NO big stores accept bitcoin, yet I buy about 90% of my food with bitcoin. I buy directly from very small businesses that do accept bitcoin. The businesses I buy from are not even yet listed anywhere as accepting bitcoin.
If I were to leave my country (A) and go live in another country (B), I'd reach out to local bitcoiners in country A with connections to country (B) and also reach out to local bitcoiners in country B.
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This seems like a good approach. Advice on finding bitcoiners in countries A and B? The obvious thing to do would be post in SN a bunch ("anyone live in Peru or Mexico?"), and then try to expand them breadth-first that way; but perhaps there's a more targeted method than that?
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363 sats \ 2 replies \ @anon 27 May
Hmmm... let me see... off the top of my head :
  1. if you're orangepilling your friends and acquaintances all the time, you automatically get the benefit of their networks too;
  2. I would look at all the people I've ever known and find one that's from that country or who speaks the main language of that country, and ask that person;
  3. I'd contact people who are working on bitcoin-related github projects (and look them up online) to find some that may be from that country or speak its language;
  4. I'd direct email small businesses or small companies in that country or a close-by country (or a country where the main language is the same) and try to get in touch with someone working there;
(potentially : 5. join the telegram group for any of those businesses,);
  1. find nostr and SN posts from those people and connect with them;
  2. perhaps use the orangepillapp;
  3. perhaps try in person cash to btc (small) transactions to try to expand my network;
  4. look up people who've ever travelled there (patreon, youtube, etc) and ask them directly if they know some local bitcoiners or even just some local normies I could get in touch with to ask them; and
  5. look up NGOs working in those countries or with those countries and asking for the same thing as 9.
  6. I'd go to local ethnic restaurants who accept bitcoin. Chances are they still have friends, family and acquaintances back home.
Those are what's coming to mind right now.
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Anon, you are a very creative and resourceful guy!
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Well, yeah thank you, but I really need to work on execution, execution, execution... !! hahaha
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I applaud your perseverance in using LN even though you are faced with challenges, like system lag, untrained staff n unreliable BTCMap. You show us how to enjoy the struggle.
Stay safe out there
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Thank you! "Enjoy the struggle," I like that framing! We've come quite far but we're not quite there yet!
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I am really enjoying all that you're going through in El Salvador.
I feel like it's not a place that I imagined or underestimated.
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Really interesting. Thanks!
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Thanks for sharing, keep posting!
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8 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 27 May
Interesting to hear your experience. I guess it’s just going to take some time
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Great recap. Thanks for posting.
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How important is to educate merchants..., they need to know how important is to receive the hardest money on earth, if they see it as only a one more payment method :( they are going to have high expectation.
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Love this insight thanks
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A typical El Salvadorian meal, Potatoes, rice, meat and shrimp.
This parks looks inviting!
The old town is going major renovations everywhere.
The "Chinese" library.
When paying with Bitcoin at El Salvador's largest supermarket chain, first find the designated checkout lane.
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Much of El Salvador's recent infrastructure development is completed by Chinese companies and subsidized by various Chinese government-linked development funds.
Hmm. I wonder why the Chinese are doing that.
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They have a massive infrastructure industry with horrendous overcapacity, so they are trying to make train stations, airports, shopping malls and stadiums their primary export
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Interesting. Could it also hove something to do with expanding Chinese influence in those countries?
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There's definitely the soft power element, but in this case I think it was relatively transactional. "If us Central American economies formerly recognize the People's Republic, what do we get in advance?" And infrastructure was what China had to offer
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