Very nice, easy to use wallet but you can't swap between onchain and lightning or liquid in the wallet. What's the point of having all three if you can't swap.
I'd imagine they'll have that functionality eventually. It seems like that isn't easy to implement. I remember there being a lot of criticisms of how Muun attempted to do it.
You're right my bad. I think I assumed there was no swap functionality at all because when I first downloaded it I thought it would be a great wallet for onchain to lightning swaps but I wasn't able to do that. I recall sending some L-BTC to it from my green wallet but never tried the lightning to liquid functionality. I will look into it further.
Hopefully in the future it has onchain to lightning.
Bullbitcoin also came out with an app that does all three (with boltz under the hood) : lightning, liquid bitcoin and bitcoin. Not supporting Tor yet though.
I got crucified by others (not you) for suggesting Muun.... this wallet does exactly the same, as per their docs: AQUA sends Bitcoin on Lightning via submarine swaps . I'm just curious if the frantic outcry will happen again...
The frantic outcry regardless of that is "It uses Liquid which is ultimately a custodial multi-sig with a bunch of companies and you aren't one of them nor do you have unilateral exit"
I'm not gonna embrace fediment and cashu. Its also not the first thing I've disagreed with the mutiny creator about lmao. Its not that much that I disagree with him so don't get that impression, but lets just leave it at, I'm not a hero worshiper lol.
So look I'm looking at self-custodial stuff. n-of-n multi-sig like how the lightning network is 2-of-2. So you could do more like 7-of-7, but all of the participants have to be online. So all 7 people have to be online. However, if we have CTV (or any other covenant method) we could do timeout tree vtxos and then its like the ARK protocol.
Now, I did see Calle talk about trading one e-cash with another e-cash atomically which was neat and everything, but being m-of-n (a federation or 3-of-4 for example) instead of n-of-n with unilateral exit doesn't sit right with me.
https://m.stacker.news/33124
But who knows, maybe we'll figure out something self-custodial with e-cash somehow...who knows what the future could hold.
I like to point out the liquid federation haters who speak highly of e cash mints like Fedi and cashu. I guess they can’t ascertain fedi is short for federation. Their hypocrisy is annoying in addition to their lack of logic.
On mutiny you have to join a federation before opening a lightning channel.
I am bullish on liquid and lightning and fedimint
Federations are not the end of the world. I won’t lose any sleep over it.