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What if the whole thing was a failed CIA coup attempt and no one was actually massacred?
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It's not.
Most of you guys only know of communist china for the cultural revolution, great famine and this 8964 event.
But in reality, the late 70s to early 80s was a huge period of "democratic"movement. Or "realignment" is more accurate. Part of the follow up from end of cultural revolution.
There's democracy wall in campus, huge amount of debates on papers. all talking about how to go back to the core of Marxism, which includes reducing bureaucracy of ccp.
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I remember it well. For a very brief moment some of us optimists in the west thought the Chinese population would rise up. Some did. However the brutality and totality of the crackdown was not imaginable. Now we know fully why they don't rise up.
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I felt the same way. It was crushing when it went bad.
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The CCP has done an amazing job of allowing market activity (something the Chinese diaspora thrives at all over the planet, by the way.) yet keeping control by correcting, disappearing, or killing ANYONE that gets too big for their britches.
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Jack Ma learned his lesson.
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Didnt he run away to Japan?
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I don't know. If you have information I would be interested in learning of his fate. You're talking about the tank man, not Jack Ma, right?
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I know that he was teaching in Japan. Im talking about Jack Ma in this instance. lol
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He was made to bend the knee. He's back now, I think. He made some sort of an appearance in China recently.
I don't think so. Carlos Ghosn ran from Japan. 🤣
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MAN!
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That man disappeared. Vanished after the incident.
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CCP has been crushing everyone ever since that attempt. Even the wealthiest like Jack Ma couldn't raise voices against the brutality and injustice by CCP.
I agree that every country must come forward and put pressure on the Chinese rule to direct the situation.
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154 sats \ 2 replies \ @Zk2u 5 Jun
Where did Jack Ma go? Didn't he vacate the country and subsequently lay low?
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154 sats \ 1 reply \ @Zk2u 5 Jun
Kagi says
Jack Ma, the founder of Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba, has largely disappeared from public view since late 2020 after criticizing China's financial sector. [1][2] After his disappearance, there was speculation about his whereabouts and safety, but Alibaba has stated that he is "alive" and "happy". [3] In recent months, Ma has resurfaced and been spotted in Europe, indicating that he has escaped the scrutiny of Chinese authorities. [4] However, Ma has remained largely out of the public eye and has given up control of his Ant Group fintech company as part of a broader crackdown by the Chinese government on big tech companies. [5]
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @xz 5 Jun
from public view, largely memory-holed from interwebs.
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Do you think China will ever gain freedom in the 21st century? A move away from communism and to libertarianism?
What would this look like... Its hard to fathom.
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113 sats \ 0 replies \ @jgbtc 5 Jun
Imagine Taiwan but with the population of China. It would be mind blowing.
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110 sats \ 0 replies \ @wingalt 5 Jun
Not a chance, the rest of the world is turning into China instead, CCP-type of control is any leader wet dream
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The Tiananmen Square protests, known in China as June Fourth, were student-led demonstrations in Tiananmen Square in Beijing, China, that took place from April 15 to June 4, 1989.
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The people have been protesting consistently. You just havent noticed, Poisoned toothpaste, lead paint on children's toys, poison foods. They're all attempts to slow down the Chinese economy. It is the west at fault for trying to save a dollar they didn't have.
Nothing happened
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Lumor 5 Jun
Probably was an attempt at color revolution, but the balls of tank man were real impressive.
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