How I might orange pill my wife \ stacker news ~bitcoin

1957 sats \ 38 comments \ @cryotosensei 7 Jun bitcoin

My wife knows I have Bitcoin. I don’t think she particularly cares. Our hands are full trying to juggle all the balls parenting brings, planned or otherwise.

I am also not particularly concerned about showing her the light. If it (enlightenment) comes, it comes.

Yesterday, I had an A-ha moment. Had lunch with her and my parents-in-law. After the meal, she went to order a cup of Luckin Coffee latte from her app.

Suffice it to say that the (cheaper) roasted coffee that we get at local coffee shops isn’t her cup of tea. Now, I’m just mixing beverages but you get the point. Luckin Coffee gains the approval of her delicate taste buds.

As you may expect, Luckin Coffee is more expensive than the coffee shop counterpart. Starbucks-equivalent expensive. But she was shrewd enough to use a discount coupon, which lowered the price by quite a bit. If I were her, I wouldn’t have minded forking out a little bit extra to get my hands on something I truly desire.

In that second I had that A-had moment, my mind kicked furiously and hatched a plan about how I could orange-pill her, given the will:

Show her how I buy FairPrice supermarket gift cards from Bitrefill. She will then understand that Bitcoin isn’t this wild volatile speculative asset, but is instead a legitimate currency that you can swap for stuff to maintain your life energy.
Once she gets used to the idea, repeat the process but show her how I buy Grab food takeout vouchers from The Bitcoin Company. I’m just guessing, but I think she will feel more at ease, knowing that there are two companies dedicated to selling gift cards.
Show her my list of transactions so that she knows how much sats I typically use to buy a FairPrice or Grab card.
Convince her to buy BTC when it is dipping.
Spend the BTC on these gift cards when it is on the rise. Make sure to let my wife know how much she has saved (or rather, how much I have saved since we will be using my money).

I think it could work because it brings Bitcoin to the fore of her everyday concerns.

Is your better half vested in Bitcoin? Did you have the honour of orange pilling her?

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155 sats \ 1 reply \ @plebpoet 7 Jun

I know that you are sincere, so I want to tell you what I appreciated... as a wife. :p This is a cool realization you had and I think it would be great to show her how you use bitcoin naturally in your life. But I hope a larger conversation about bitcoin's significance can be had. Like if you were to ask your wife what she thinks her money will be worth in ten years? If there is something you guys are saving for, ask her how she thinks it would be best to save it? Explain why you think bitcoin is better. Does she think privacy is important? Maybe have that conversation. Because she's your wife, she's doing life with you. I think the more energy you can spend on the grander life choices and why you align with bitcoin ethos on those things, you'll have a much richer dialogue.

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei OP 7 Jun

Thanks for taking the time to share your perspective with me. As a parts-to-whole person, I always appreciate it when someone shows me big-picture thinking, which is often a consideration I neglect in my action-oriented ways haha. Have bookmarked your comment n will think about having that broad conversation, as you suggested

63 sats \ 0 replies \ @cristaiji 7 Jun

My wife is not into bitcoin either….😩

115 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bitcoiner1 7 Jun

I know there are many kinds of arrangements in a marriage, just wandering if in your case husband and wife are 100 % clear about the situation, because in your post you said: "My wife knows I have Bitcoin" "I have saved since we will be using my money"

Did you get your SATs only using "your" money? Is your money only your? If something happens to you, is she able to access to the funds?

IMO, one way to get her to learn about BTC is with my last question... In case, something happens she needs to know what to do in order to access the funds...

Sorry to touch on this topic, but I think the marriage as a unit, not as two different entities.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @cryotosensei OP 7 Jun

Don’t be sorry! I love that you ask me the tough questions.

Basically, my wife and I have a joint account, but other than that, we handle our finances separately. Yes, I can say that I get my sats with my money. Unfortunately, my wife wouldn’t know what to do to access my funds if something amiss were to happen to me. Erm this doesn’t just apply to Bitcoin, but my other sources of retirement funds too. In fact, I was supposed to use my current two-week break to educate her about how to get access to my money. Thanks for the nudge; I’d better get started!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bitcoiner1 7 Jun

Great to know that you take my comment in a good way.

Traditional financial is not a big problem because the laws come into play and supposed to let the inheritance access to the funds...but BTC is a different animal.

110 sats \ 0 replies \ @eightiespleb 7 Jun

Is your better half vested in Bitcoin? Did you have the honour of orange pilling her?

Yes. I would say I introduced her to it, rather than "orange-pilled" her. I believe "orange pilling" is a selfish metaphor for something as brilliant as Bitcoin, which has been given freely to everyone. Therefore, I think freedom of choice should be respected when introducing Bitcoin.

When we first met, I was just starting to write a book about Bitcoin jo. It was my peak excitement. And I didn't say a word about money or Bitcoin to her until she brought the topic up on some date. We sat on the park bench and we talked about the fundamentals of money.

Then maybe two months later as I showed her this "Don't Buy Bitcoin. It's Going To Crash!!!" -video as a joke https://youtu.be/XbZ8zDpX2Mg?si=0N_s4hf-ud43Mjrn

And after that she was asking where and how to purchase some. Before telling her that I gave her lecture about hodling for long term. Later on I also gave her a lesson about proper self-custody.

Now days she can often explain Bitcoin in more understandable way to many people who ask about it than I can. But to be fair, she has heard more than enough about money, Bitcoin and economics from me ever since she first asked to talk about money 🤠

31 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 7 Jun

My wife was very skeptical of bitcoin but then I started sending her money monthly in bitcoin and slowly started teaching her about it. I wouldn’t say she is fully orange pilled but she understands it well enough and the value proposition.

80 sats \ 1 reply \ @cryotosensei OP 7 Jun

I literally just learnt today that patient comes from the Latin word pati (to suffer). Haha. Kudos to you

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 7 Jun

That’s interesting. Thanks for sharing

31 sats \ 11 replies \ @Satosora 7 Jun

Did you actually talk to her about this plan, or is it all in your mind still? lol

31 sats \ 10 replies \ @cryotosensei OP 7 Jun

Well now that I typed it out, it is no longer in my mind, but a grandiose plan to execute xP

21 sats \ 9 replies \ @Satosora 7 Jun

This plan sounds really nice... Good luck with the execution haha

31 sats \ 8 replies \ @Undisciplined 7 Jun

Yeah, good luck.

I’m still working on getting my wife onboard with funneling more of our finances through my Fold card.

31 sats \ 5 replies \ @Satosora 7 Jun

I tried talking to my wife about btc. It was like talking to a brick wall.

42 sats \ 4 replies \ @southside263 7 Jun

3 years and have given up.

“When the life partner is ready…”😅

31 sats \ 3 replies \ @cryotosensei OP 7 Jun

Gotta pick our battles, huh

42 sats \ 2 replies \ @southside263 7 Jun

We’ve got a young family and both working fulltime - the mental bandwidth space of hard money isn’t needed right now 😂

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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @cryotosensei OP 7 Jun

enjoy the struggle

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 7 Jun

I dont struggle with it. I dont talk to her about it. She doesnt have an interest. I told her my opinion on the vaccine....she got three. Im not there to make her take my side on things.

63 sats \ 2 replies \ @neuromancerbiz 7 Jun freebie

Brilliant, loved how you had the aha moment

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @cryotosensei OP 7 Jun

Thanks for letting me know! And welcome to Stacker News! Hope you will stay a while

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @neuromancerbiz 8 Jun

Thanks 😄

42 sats \ 1 reply \ @Taft 7 Jun

Some good points to start with. Based on her response, you'll know how to enlighten her about the "orange pill" benefits!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei OP 7 Jun

Indeed, one step at a time

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @02bcd3eeb0 7 Jun

My wife knows I have Bitcoin. I don’t think she particularly cares.

Based on my experience, she will start to care a lot if you get divorced. So that is probably the best way to orange pill her.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei OP 7 Jun

This brought a chuckle 🤭

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @john_doe 7 Jun freebie

Nice! She is also vested in Bitcoin, as I have been told I speak about Bitcoin everyday. So 1) if you talk about the topics related to everyday life in a way favorable to Bitcoin, she might become pro-bitcoin. Also a big part was to 2) go somewhere accepting Bitcoin, as it shows utility. 3) Avoid talking about anything related to speculation or price (like ETFs for example). Recently a part of the population in Japan (I would say 80%) just received "free" tickets for new vaccines to counter the side effects of Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. A smart use of taxes. So 4) the government might help you in the process, you just have to intercept opportunities on-the-fly. 5) It can be jokes based on fun facts. E.g.: "Did you know that in Weimar Germany, when people were robbed, they had everything stolen but their money was left on the ground? Hahaha"

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei OP 7 Jun

Thanks for detailing your very systematic process!

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 7 Jun

It might work! My wife loves discounts too.

101 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei OP 7 Jun

No harm trying, right? Haha

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @jasonb 8 Jun

The first conversation I ever had with my wife was about Atlas Shrugged, so when we found bitcoin, it was more of like going down the rabbit slide than the rabbit hole. We're not objectivists, but the idea of sound money as a libertarian ideal is kind of a 'duh' philosophy in our household.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei OP 8 Jun

Thanks for sharing. I should pick up a copy of the Atlas Shrugged soon

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SatsMate 9 Jun

I think that is a great idea. Some people won't get orange-pilled with words, rather they need to feel or experience it firsthand.

For example, my fiance finally saw the benefit of Bitcoin as we were working down the roads of El Zonte chatting it up with the locals. She saw the culture side and the side for people transmitting value without bank accounts. She would have never gotten it through Youtube videos or traditional forms of education/news.