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I thought Wikileaks had revealed in 2008 Bush's plan to extend NATO to Georgia and Ukraine which infuriated Moscow ("nyet means nyet") and led to Russian's action in Georgia and their interest in keeping Ukraine neutral which failed in 2014 when Yanukovich had to flee the country after the Maiden coup

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html

Did Russia invade Ukraine when Ukraine was neutral or when it joined NATO? We know the answer, so keep the downplaying of Russian aggression against an independent country.

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Ukraine was not neutral

You can't poke a bear then say the bear started it

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Ukraine has been neutral until now. She still hasn't entered anywhere.

The bear roared and screamed drunk long before 2014. What nudge are you talking about?

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I said poke

Poke is more provocative than nudge

The instigator is NATO at this point; I believe Ukraine wants a ceasefire but then the NATO will cut off aid after destroying the country. Zelensky is being coerced and blackmailed by NATO.

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Did you read Wikileaks cable shared by @wingalt?

I love Wikileaks

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Nyet means nyet makes me laugh every fucking time

Thanks for sharing wikileaks cable, which the anti Russian crowd ( my guess is they are from the Baltic States) refuse to read because they are allergic to truth and fact

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who is GOR in the wikileaks transcript?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Burns_%28diplomat%29

edit: William J Burns is the current director of CIA

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never mind

GOR = government of Russia

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Yes!

2008 Bucharest Summit also

edit: Can't beat primary sources, we are re-living history, 2008!

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