Recent reports from German media are now openly suggesting that Ukraine was involved in the sabotage of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. This development sheds new light on the incident, which led to soaring energy prices across Europe. For months, speculation and blame were directed towards Russia, but this revelation calls into question previous narratives and demands a reevaluation of the geopolitical landscape surrounding the incident.
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202 sats \ 29 replies \ @Undisciplined 14 Aug
I've heard there's this new thing in journalism where you think about who might benefit from something, while you're investigating the story.
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109 sats \ 28 replies \ @TomK OP 14 Aug
I can also well imagine that, in view of the fact that this war has been lost, Germany is now trying to build its first bridges and get out of it. perhaps this should be seen in this context
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168 sats \ 27 replies \ @SimpleStacker 14 Aug
Them trying to blame Russia at first for blowing up their own pipeline is one of the stupidest thing I ever saw.
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32 sats \ 15 replies \ @Cje95 14 Aug
To be honest I am still not sure Ukraine could have pulled this off years ago... Ukraine now with its drone tech yeah but I mean for a couple of years ago??? I feel its a reach
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47 sats \ 14 replies \ @SimpleStacker 14 Aug
I think they had u.s. help.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Cje95 14 Aug
I'd agree but when the Biden Admin did the LNG export pause freeze in Jan that directly affected almost all of Europe if not all of it. Given how the admin did this to themselves makes me wonder if it wasn't someone else like a Qatar
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 14 Aug
It's entirely plausible to me that this is an example of the left hand not talking to the right hand.
The administration is really a bunch of people and groups each with their own agenda, and sometimes those agendas don't align or coordinate
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 14 Aug
Yeah its either that or someone or some country in the Middle East that knows that the US or Russia would be the prime suspects and shield the others!
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0 sats \ 10 replies \ @Undisciplined 14 Aug
I thought we already knew it was the CIA with some help from other NATO members.
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27 sats \ 9 replies \ @Cje95 14 Aug
Idk the CIA has been hamared with spy ring busts in China and failures in the Middle East so for them to pull this off.... seems like a stretch.
I could see a Middle Eastern country though do it and play the game that they might not be the first to benefit but they can undercut the US long term.
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43 sats \ 8 replies \ @Undisciplined 14 Aug
I'm not trying to speculate about the culprit.
There was a big Seymour Hersch article about this, shortly after the event. I thought it was more or less the accepted account. Obviously, the US Government will never admit to it, if it was them.
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34 sats \ 0 replies \ @TomK OP 14 Aug
The herd believed the crap
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47 sats \ 9 replies \ @Bell_curve 14 Aug
Why would Russia blow up the pipeline if they can turn if off?
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21 sats \ 8 replies \ @TomK OP 14 Aug
The woke herd needed a cool story to hate the Russians even more. Wait until they do the Maidan 'thing'
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47 sats \ 7 replies \ @Bell_curve 14 Aug
Maidan is a movement, a revolution not a coup!
Innocent Ukraine fighting for freedom versus imperial Russia
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @TomK OP 15 Aug
Good joke....
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21 sats \ 5 replies \ @openyoureyes 15 Aug
This is a really good joke.
So you think it is revolutionary when a nationalist mob kills and burns leftists?
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Bell_curve 15 Aug
- I was joking
- I have no problem with burning leftists
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78 sats \ 4 replies \ @Enemy_of_the_state 14 Aug
Most of you know it was the US, correct?
USA trying to start WW3 with Russia. The clowns in charge are psychopathic maniacs and must be stopped.
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68 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 14 Aug
It's just all about the $$$.
DoD / State Department is like the business development department of Raytheon basically.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 14 Aug
Raytheon has been a large steady defense contractor for a very long time, since the Cold War
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121 sats \ 0 replies \ @TomK OP 14 Aug
Not the 'US'. The military complex/neocons with their UK friends
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @a79fa1f739 15 Aug freebie
Those things don't exist. They are figments of the imagination. It is the people who give the collective power to these entities by believing in their ideals
47 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 14 Aug
Lone gunman, I mean, pipeline bomber
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @TomK OP 14 Aug
All roads lead to London (always)
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21 sats \ 13 replies \ @TomK OP 14 Aug
this comes too late for the German economy. it remains to be seen how future politicians will deal with the coming alliance with Russia. it is imperative that these states come together again. then we can think about rebuilding them
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20 sats \ 7 replies \ @Cje95 14 Aug
I do think we need to factor in that by forcing the US to unleash its LNG that the admin is now trying to stop the German economy created a rival for Russian which in theory should lead to a decrease in price long term... Granted its the long game but Russia was a monopoly and the US wasn't big on exporting but the war changed all that
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47 sats \ 6 replies \ @Satosora 15 Aug
America cant support the amount that needs to be exported.
The oil processed here is too expensive!
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20 sats \ 5 replies \ @TomK OP 15 Aug
True
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47 sats \ 4 replies \ @Satosora 15 Aug
And they ramped down the fracking a while back.
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20 sats \ 3 replies \ @TomK OP 15 Aug
You know what You have to do in November. You would help us, too
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Satosora 15 Aug
November?
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20 sats \ 1 reply \ @TomK OP 15 Aug
Elections
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47 sats \ 4 replies \ @Satosora 15 Aug
You think Ukraine did this to drag others into the war?
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20 sats \ 3 replies \ @TomK OP 15 Aug
UK uses them (watch what BoJo the clown did) to drag the EU and then the US into this
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47 sats \ 2 replies \ @Satosora 15 Aug
Thats the direction I was thinking.
Trying to light a spark to get us into this war.
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20 sats \ 1 reply \ @TomK OP 15 Aug
Breaking Russia into its ethnic components has always been English policy. This is nothing new and can be wonderfully documented historically
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 15 Aug
Right, but what will finally be the last straw that breaks the camels back?
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25 sats \ 1 reply \ @Satosora 15 Aug
I thought the chinese did it?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 15 Aug
How does China benefit from Russia being mired in conflict and cut off from its European markets and the Wests SWIFT banking network?
Surely China is not now enjoying a massive flow of discounted oil and gas from Russia with the added bonus that what is paid for this energy (in CBDC Yuan and merchandise) is immediately expended upon a war on Ukraine that is costing the USA hugely?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 15 Aug
Interesting. Always wondered what was going on there and sure looks like it has been covered up until now.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 15 Aug
I think it's just for transferring the blame! Germany now don't want to take the blame on themselves. By doing so the media also want to say that US is also not in loved!
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