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43 sats \ 9 replies \ @ek 6 Sep \ parent \ on: Stacker Saloon

Here's a video of the issue:

https://files.ekzy.is/public/sn/2024-09-06%2013-23-23.mp4

We are not receiving a response for the get_info command which we need to check permissions. The bottom left shows all websocket messages. We send the request, we receive that the relay accepted (OK), we subscribe to the response (REQ) and it responds with EOSE which means it doesn't have the response yet (which is expected). But then silence.

It works fine with cashu.me:

https://files.ekzy.is/public/sn/2024-09-06%2013-30-51.mp4

43 sats \ 8 replies \ @ek 6 Sep

I might have found the issue on our side, we should subscribe before we send the request for ephemeral events according to the spec. Going to verify and give an update 👀

164 sats \ 7 replies \ @ek 6 Sep

That was indeed the issue. Sorry for the miscommunication @Alby @bumi @saunter!

Someone in our dev chat even told me that ephemeral events need to be handled differently but I forgot about fixing it.

And thank you @siggy47 for your patience and reminding us about it. This will be fixed in the next release (which should be very soon if not today).

/cc @k00b

32 sats \ 6 replies \ @siggy47 6 Sep

Great news!

43 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 6 Sep

Indeed but I must say, I am a little embarrassed haha

100 sats \ 4 replies \ @siggy47 6 Sep

What's your opinion? I would assume that when NWC connect is working that would probably be the most reliable wallet connection? Would that beat a lightning address to receive, assuming the address was in an always on setup?

107 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 6 Sep

TL;DR: NWC vs LN address doesn't really matter; just use what is available to you. It probably looks cleaner in your wallet to use NWC since it can send+recv.

Mhh, it's a bit nuanced:

I wouldn't say NWC is the most reliable since you're using infrastructure that you don't control (nostr relays). However, @Alby runs their own relay, so there is some guarantee that this relay is well maintained. Additionally, this is more a theoretical problem. I haven't had any problems with Primal's relay ever for example.

The advantage of NWC is that you don't need to have a public IP and mess with firewall settings. You can simply use any relay to connect both ends.

However, if you already run your own node and have a public IP so we can reach you directly, you could run LNbits or phoenixd since both work with simple HTTP requests. Websockets are a bit more complicated so more could go wrong which is what nostr is using.

But I think in practice, it doesn't really matter if you use HTTP (LNbits, LN address, phoenixd, CLN), websockets (NWC) or gRPC (LND).

LNC is the only connection that does something really unique. Imo it's over-engineered and you can't even run it in multiple tabs at once so we need to always initiate a connection for every zap and then disconnect; making it pretty slow.

352 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 6 Sep

Thanks! I've been patiently following your communication. Thank you so much! The way you explained this, I couldn't help to appreciate you. It is really amazing! Thanks @siggy47! Please do as much discussion on the 'connect wallet' as possible so that tech normies like me can enlighten.

111 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 6 Sep

Thanks for this encyclopedic response. That explains a lot. That's why they pay you the big sats!

129 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep

I just like connecting computers :)

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