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This should prove interesting for anyone still under the belief that Telegram is private. Though I can't say I'm shocked -- while I respect anyone who fights back, I completely get that "you will go to jail and lose all your money" is a hell of an incentive, and I can't say I'd have reacted differently (though if someone wants to give me billions of dollars and bitcoin and a large tech company, I'm happy to be a test case).
302 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 6 Sep
I would have a lot more respect for him if he didn't claim without evidence that Signal has a backdoor while his app doesn't even need one... just ask the CEO. He is the backdoor...
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @nout 6 Sep
"moderating private chats" is oxymoron.
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I REALLY do not give a shit...
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225 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rsync25 6 Sep
It’s time for Simplex and Nostr
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63 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 6 Sep
It shouldn't even be possible to do that, arrest or no arrest.
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Yeah. I do wonder if this also applies to the "secret" chats that are (in theory) end-to-end encrypted (which should be the default but isn't).
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Why? Chats aren't encrypted unless you specify you want to open an encrypted chat
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321 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 6 Sep
Afaict, this is about those "encrypted" chats
edit: Oh, I guess my disdain for TG got the better of me. I assumed with "private" they meant the "secret" chats because it is known that the others aren't "private".
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Is it? It says private chats sure, but I believe this is one of those word games where the three types of chats are group chats, private chats, and encrypted chats. As in, I think this is referring to chats between 2 people that are unencrypted.
Not to say I have much confidence in Telegrams encryption though.
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You can also auto delete messages
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Centralized platforms will fall until moral improves.
Protocols over platforms. Networks over companies.
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151 sats \ 0 replies \ @jddska 6 Sep
Use simplex, xmpp and matrix
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41 sats \ 1 reply \ @flat24 6 Sep
This type of measures were to be expected, which is why it is important to migrate to other platforms such as Nostr's Oxchat, Briar, SimpleX, where they cannot censor us or spy on our conversations.
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0xChat 🙌
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25 sats \ 0 replies \ @nichro 6 Sep
Durov's post on TG:
❤️ Thanks everyone for your support and love!
Last month I got interviewed by police for 4 days after arriving in Paris. I was told I may be personally responsible for other people’s illegal use of Telegram, because the French authorities didn’t receive responses from Telegram.
This was surprising for several reasons: 
  1. Telegram has an official representative in the EU that accepts and replies to EU requests. Its email address has been publicly available for anyone in the EU who googles “Telegram EU address for law enforcement”. 
  2. The French authorities had numerous ways to reach me to request assistance. As a French citizen, I was a frequent guest at the French consulate in Dubai. A while ago, when asked, I personally helped them establish a hotline with Telegram to deal with the threat of terrorism in France.
  3. If a country is unhappy with an internet service, the established practice is to start a legal action against the service itself. Using laws from the pre-smartphone era to charge a CEO with crimes committed by third parties on the platform he manages is a misguided approach. Building technology is hard enough as it is. No innovator will ever build new tools if they know they can be personally held responsible for potential abuse of those tools. 
Establishing the right balance between privacy and security is not easy. You have to reconcile privacy laws with law enforcement requirements, and local laws with EU laws. You have to take into account technological limitations. As a platform, you want your processes to be consistent globally, while also ensuring they are not abused in countries with weak rule of law. We’ve been committed to engaging with regulators to find the right balance. Yes, we stand by our principles: our experience is shaped by our mission to protect our users in authoritarian regimes. But we’ve always been open to dialogue.
Sometimes we can’t agree with a country’s regulator on the right balance between privacy and security. In those cases, we are ready to leave that country. We've done it many times. When Russia demanded we hand over “encryption keys” to enable surveillance, we refused — and Telegram got banned in Russia. When Iran demanded we block channels of peaceful protesters, we refused — and Telegram got banned in Iran. We are prepared to leave markets that aren’t compatible with our principles, because we are not doing this for money. We are driven by the intention to bring good and defend the basic rights of people, particularly in places where these rights are violated.
All of that does not mean Telegram is perfect. Even the fact that authorities could be confused by where to send requests is something that we should improve. But the claims in some media that Telegram is some sort of anarchic paradise are absolutely untrue. We take down millions of harmful posts and channels every day. We publish daily transparency reports (like this or this). We have direct hotlines with NGOs to process urgent moderation requests faster.
However, we hear voices saying that it’s not enough. Telegram’s abrupt increase in user count to 950M caused growing pains that made it easier for criminals to abuse our platform. That’s why I made it my personal goal to ensure we significantly improve things in this regard. We’ve already started that process internally, and I will share more details on our progress with you very soon. 
I hope that the events of August will result in making Telegram — and the social networking industry as a whole — safer and stronger. Thanks again for your love and memes 🙏
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @ken 6 Sep
We need E2E by default! Always.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 7 Sep
*E2EE
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Tox will never censor you.
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Simplex can’t do this to groups. But I wonder if this will put legal pressure on group owners/admins in SimpleX?
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If this happen then it will be so bad huff
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121 sats \ 1 reply \ @jddska 6 Sep
Why? Just use the self-hosting alternatives like simplex, xmpp and matrix
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May be I should try
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Privacy ✔️
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If it is moderated it is like creating another Stacker News. Maybe that is their goal all along. To be a competitor to SN. They must be really envious of SN.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @BTCLNAT 8 Sep
Telegram: centralized, CEO imprisoned and pressured. Nothing to do, sorry; If it must be done, pass Nostr.
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Nostr is the way to go!
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It is difficult to bear the pressure that losing your freedom or possessions places on anyone. That is why it is more advisable to be in safe areas like Nostr, a totally decentralized protocol where to attack it would have to be the relays and there are several such as the Bitcoin nodes, who is the CEO of Nostr, the community.
That reminds me of a book called "Fuenteovejuna" where the governor was killed for being an abuser.
When the authorities asked "Who killed the governor"
The people responded: "Fuenteovejuna sir"
That's Nostr. It cannot be censored, stopped or blocked.
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Of course they will. WWW.
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