Caveat Using Alby Hub To Connect To SN? \ stacker news ~meta

518 sats \ 33 comments \ @siggy47 15 Sep meta

I have been using Alby Hub connected to my always on node for SN zapping and receiving. I zap through the NWC connect app added to umbrel through the Alby community app store. I use the Alby Hub to receive.

I live in an area where we lose power frequently. That's why I use a UPS for my node. We recently had a few brief power outages. I didn't lose the ability to zap after power was restored, but the receive connection was broken when I was logged out from Alby Hub. I wasn't paying attention, and realized my SATs were now building up in the SN wallet.

No big deal, I guess. I just wanted to point out this issue.

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64 sats \ 18 replies \ @DarthCoin 15 Sep

KISS. Just use cowboy credits....

0 sats \ 17 replies \ @siggy47 OP 15 Sep

We don't know anything about these cowboy credits yet. I think a big draw for SN future growth is zapping with real sats. Obviously for NGU crowd, but it will also be tougher to control spam around here if the currency is free.

123 sats \ 16 replies \ @DarthCoin 15 Sep

Do you remember my comment few months ago in the discussion about how will gonna be with so called "non-custodial" movement shit on SN?

Do I have to remind to everybody that Darth, when is talking about something, is always right?

I coming from the future, remember?

17 sats \ 15 replies \ @siggy47 OP 15 Sep

Yes, I do remember. I would like to prevent it without newbies losing their minds about an easy solution. Alby Hub seems promising. Your guide was good. Remember the other day you posted @justin_shocknet video? (I'm going to try that, BTW.) Maybe he or @supertestnet can come up with an easy UI SN solution?

I just thought of something else. I have a Start9 node that has a Mutiny Wallet app. What do you think of trying that self hosted for SN? It really worked great for zapping on nostr. I guess that needs fedi, though.

129 sats \ 1 reply \ @justin_shocknet 15 Sep

This is step 1: https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/issues/1376

Will open a second issue for the debit side soon :tm:

Once these are done, pairing SN to your node will be a matter of just entering your Lightning Address or nprofile and then clicking Accept in ShockWallet.

re: S9/Mutiny

Mutiny doesn't actually run on your Start9 to handle transactional requests, it's only hosting a copy of the files for your phone to download since Mutiny is a mobile node

We'll get a S9 distribution of Pub out eventually, they've been making some great improvements and last I talked to Matt he suggested letting some of those settle in a bit before packaging

17 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 15 Sep

Thanks very much for your input! THIS is excellent.

60 sats \ 12 replies \ @DarthCoin 15 Sep

I really think that SN "self-hosted" thing is for nothing, noise for nothing. Too much noise for nothing. Some things could just stay "custodial", nothing wrong with that.

0 sats \ 11 replies \ @siggy47 OP 15 Sep

I agree. The problem is SN is based in the US. (I know, fuck the guvs😀). SN could have legal troubles.

60 sats \ 10 replies \ @DarthCoin 15 Sep

SN is making too much case for nothing.

0 sats \ 9 replies \ @siggy47 OP 15 Sep

I agree there is a case for custodial, especially for now. But, don't you think it's worthwhile to develop self custodial solutions that, over time, will be simpler to use and more reliable?

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85 sats \ 2 replies \ @Coinsreporter 15 Sep

Thanks for catching on this topic. I also wanna learn about it before we can only login by wallet. Alby hub seems to be the most promising option so far.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Radentor 15 Sep

Alby hub seems to be the most promising option so far

Why ?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 15 Sep

As they are saying 😊

53 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 15 Sep

Siggy trying to empty his SN wallet.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 15 Sep

Exactly! There are always a few sats hiding in a crease

43 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 15 Sep

Thanks for the case study!

We definitely need to alert folks about their wallets having issue. ek and I discussed this last week.

43 sats \ 7 replies \ @bumi 16 Sep

FYI: there is now an environment variable to auto unlock Alby Hub in those cases. If you know what you do you can set the AUTO_UNLOCK_PASSWORD env variable: https://github.com/getAlby/hub?tab=readme-ov-file#optional-configuration-parameters

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @siggy47 OP 16 Sep

Thanks. Since you are obviously the guy to talk to, can you explain how to set custom permissions on the standalone NWC connect app? You can't use it for SN nwc receive without a read only setting.

43 sats \ 5 replies \ @bumi 17 Sep

what do you mean with the "standalone NWC connect app" ?

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @siggy47 OP 17 Sep

The app on the lower left in the Alby app store.

43 sats \ 3 replies \ @bumi 17 Sep

ah.. sure.

though I consider this app to be deprecated. we don't actively work on it and Alby Hub is kinda the v2 of it.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @siggy47 OP 17 Sep

Okay. No big deal. That's the app I used first. FYI, the permissions appear to be customizable, but I cannot save custom settings.

43 sats \ 1 reply \ @bumi 17 Sep

when you create a connection on that screen. edit the checkboxes and then create the connection. no need to save them before

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 17 Sep

I tried that. It doesn't retain the edited permissions.

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