Talk to me about permanent lightning addresses (like myname@getalby.com)
153 sats \ 9 comments \ @Signal312 21 Sep lightning
Can a lightning address be permanent and un-censorable? Does this exist yet?
If it exists, could it be anonymous? It wouldn't need to be human-readable like myname@getalby.com, a qr code would work as well.
I know there's some people/groups that could really use something like this...
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68 sats \ 3 replies \ @96c0b276a3 22 Sep
No, its dependent on DNS. What youre looking for is BOLT 12 payment codes.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Signal312 OP 22 Sep
Hey, that sounds cool. I just looked up https://bolt12.org/.
So what's your sense of when this will happen? Looks like it's available in a Zeus alpha release, and that's it?
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Rexdentron 22 Sep
It's an advancement over BOLT-11 Invoice. This BOLT-12 Offers are safely,privately reusable & can have extended functionalities. AFAIK It's currently only supported on CLN & LN-KMP.
Looks like it's available in a Zeus alpha release, and that's it?
Yes, but you need to have CLN Node as backend in order to use it. Other Remote Control wallets that support Offers are Remote & RTL 1. Phoenix also supports it but AFAIK it's still uninteroperable with CLN Offers
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 22 Sep
It's not an advancement on 11, 12 still uses 11, it simply fetches them over an arbitrary new comms layer that's basically a re-invention of Tor. Therefore its slow and prone to failure, and a total larp for privacy because it entangles comms and payments. It's only being pushed by minor implementations desperate for marketshare, that's why after years of false hype its vaporware.
NIP-69 pulls comms up a layer where it belongs, Nostr: https://lightning.video/bd926eaa77a9a1046afb12faabb268be925b01d952edc3ce19d092f258ea3572
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68 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 22 Sep
I wrote an entire guide dedicated to LN Address, did you read it? https://darth-coin.github.io/beginner/getting-started-ln-address-en.html
I explained there all the options you have, including to have your OWN domain, self hosted.
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134 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 22 Sep
Gotta add Bridglet and NIP-69
https://lightning.video/bd926eaa77a9a1046afb12faabb268be925b01d952edc3ce19d092f258ea3572
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55 sats \ 1 reply \ @Malachi17 22 Sep
Presumably, the alby address is censorable if the domain is jacked.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 22 Sep
They can also just serve their own invoice
Time to upgrade to NIP-69
https://lightning.video/bd926eaa77a9a1046afb12faabb268be925b01d952edc3ce19d092f258ea3572
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34 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 22 Sep
As others have pointed out, DNS is a risk, but the threshold for that being censored is real high... if the State of Iran and Alex Jones get by with DNS so can you...
Legacy Lightning Addresses are still trusted however when outsourced, because if its not your webserver you have no enforcement of what invoice it actually serves. You're trusting that 3rd party webserver to not intercept your payments.
NIP-69 fixes this: https://lightning.video/bd926eaa77a9a1046afb12faabb268be925b01d952edc3ce19d092f258ea3572
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