1934 sats \ 53 comments \ @grayruby 19h meta

Prompted by this fine post #766083 by @denlillaapan I decided to see what is happening over on BlueSky.

I haven't had a lot of success with my Stacker Sports Twitter account other than with the bots. I am big with the bots. So, I thought it might be a good time to reach out to a new audience considering this purported "mass migration" to BlueSky.

So, I created a Stacker Sports account followed some folks talking about Sports and Bitcoin and I was off to the races. I described my initial findings in a comment on the other post as follows: "so far my interpretation is it is mostly a support group for people who want to light themselves on fire because Trump won." I crack myself up.

I did have a nice chat with a fellow Canadian Bitcoiner who is also a nostr fan and is familiar with SN. Maybe that was fruitful. And I had a wonderful chat with a self described Grandma, who is also Canadian and a Blue Jays fan. She isn't a fan of the Blue Jays front office either so we had something to bond over.

While BlueSky seemed like a ghost town other than people who wanted to rage about Trump things were looking up.

Then I started talking to people about Bitcoin and everything went downhill. A couple folks were reasonable but everyone else was sure it was a scam and that Trump was going to destroy America with it. One guy told me it is fascist and anti-human and another guy said it is worse than Bernie Maidoff. I was trying my best not to troll these people or call them brainwashed simpletons (that took a lot of effort on my part- see the things I do for Bitcoin and SN?). I shared links from bitcoin.rocks btcmap.org stacker.news and a great article from @anita about Bitcoin and human rights. And what did I get for my troubles- Labelled as spam. Initially it was just one comment so I didn't think much of it other than commenting it was a lame way for someone to disagree. And then I realized my post and all my replies from the last few hours (33 total items) had all been labelled spam.

So, my BlueSky orange, purple and SN pilling effort is now over. You may now commence laughing at me for wasting my time.

Sats for all, GR

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140 sats \ 2 replies \ @nym 18h

I didn't find what they were talking about interesting, so I just use SN mostly, and Nostr a little.

33 sats \ 1 reply \ @sangekrypto 7h

Yes, I am also like you, now I am more active on SN than other social media, because on SN there are lots of discussions that can be discussed, I am also happy to be able to discuss with my friends on SN.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @nym 1h

I also prefer the layout of SN when reading. It’s just much easier than reading a bunch cards.

233 sats \ 2 replies \ @BlokchainB 19h

This is so ironic. I tried out blue sky when it first came out. And it was very gay and trans centric. Just not my vibe. So I never went on it for over a year. Then just yesterday I’m like why am I still on this platform let me delete my account. Had to remember the email address I used to sign up and reset my password and then I deleted the account and the app.

And here you are posting about it hahaha.

Yeah I found blue sky to be a democrat/leftist echo chamber that just wasn’t my vibe. It appears you don’t need an invite code anymore but I think this is the bifurcation of the internet playing out in front of us.

185 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby OP 19h

I knew it would be left leaning but I didn't know I was going to get labelled spam. Haha.

93 sats \ 0 replies \ @random_ 18h

The digital divide as described by Balaji

150 sats \ 7 replies \ @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears 19h

Hunh. I've "used" Bluesky a lot without logging in (similar to Twitter), just seeing something someone shared with me elsewhere, but I haven't tried actually diving into the community there. I didn't even know it was possible to get labeled as spam.

ETA: Just found your posts, and it doesn't look like there's a spam label from the outside, at least. Maybe someone was trolling you somehow?

ETA 2: Just asked a friend who does have a Bluesky account to take a look, and she doesn't see a label either.

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @grayruby OP 19h

Labelled as spam on my end. All of them.

122 sats \ 4 replies \ @grayruby OP 19h

Actually you are right. Just logged back in and I am no longer spam. I wonder if it gets lifted after an hour. Now I feel like a liar.

44 sats \ 3 replies \ @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears 18h

Wonder if it's a thing where someone can label you, but if it looks like they're spamming (and labeling all your posts is definitely that), there's some check in place?

(And you're obviously not a liar.)

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby OP 18h

No idea how it works. Just know at first I noticed it as one comment and then all my comments and post and then about an hour later everything was visible again so I think it is some kind of timeout. Maybe someone reported all my stuff out of spite and it gets labeled until reviewed? First time using the platform so not really sure.

45 sats \ 1 reply \ @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears 18h

Yeah, and good incentive to not have future times using it.

Weirdly, my major social media outside of SN is FB, not because it's good in any way (I can list 100 things I hate about it), but because I can be in a group of wrestling fans or an author's works, and not have to worry about everything getting labeled spam or getting deleted.

(Also because it's literally the only way to know what some family members are up to.)

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby OP 18h

My wife still uses facebook to keep in touch with family. I think that is the most common use now.

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears 19h

That's so weird.

Just did a quick search and found a Reddit thread (of course) talking about this, and it sounds like labels are something people can subscribe to (which would explain why I can't see them)?

But literally having you see those labels constantly even if others don't feels really like a big middle finger.

91 sats \ 2 replies \ @SimpleStacker 16h

Kudos to you for trying. I certainly wouldn't have lasted long in that kind of environment.

Do you still plan to post there? It might be fun to go out with a bang.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby OP 16h

I will try it again. It seems be label has been removed. Let’s see how long it takes me next time before I get labelled again.

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @bief57 15h

It would be the ultimate triumphant exit of a toxic conservative ultra-right-wing Bitcoiner. Haha, I don't even know how to describe it anymore, but whatever annoys leftists. I wouldn't have had that courage and patience.

52 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby OP 19h

Update: My spam label has now been lifted. Either it was a timeout of some sort or was somehow reviewed and rescinded.

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 18h

Jack Dorsey sent them an email (even though he's no longer a part of it afaik)

111 sats \ 4 replies \ @IamSINGLE 11h

I think you didn't waste your time. You found out for all of us that Bluesky is not the good replacement of Twitter. It should labelled as achievement or a victory rather than a failure.

31 sats \ 3 replies \ @grayruby OP 11h

That’s a positive spin on it. I don’t think it was a waste of time either but it felt like it in the moment when I got labeled as spam after hours or commenting and engaging honestly with people but it seems it was only a temporary thing as my label has been removed now.

40 sats \ 2 replies \ @IamSINGLE 11h

So you gonna be back to Bluesky? I don't think you should. It's better we try and make Nostr better.

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby OP 10h

I might try one more time. We will see.

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE 10h

It's okay. I'll be there to support you. Tell me when you'll be there.

51 sats \ 2 replies \ @TheMorningStar 12h

Oh this is anticlimax for you with Bluesky! I'm not a fan of any other platform but I had good vibes about bluesy but all are shattered now. Thanks for sharing.

31 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby OP 12h

I did manage to get out of my bluesky prison. Not sure how it works but after a certain amount of time the spam label was removed.

51 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar 11h

Good to know. I think it'd be better if we can have a clone of twitter (X) which has zaps enabled.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 6h

Thanks for the heads-up.

From now on, you're our official authority on the matter of alternative forum-based sites.

We'll refer to the trial-and-test period as "Rubification", a positive finding as "Rubified" and a negative finding is to be referred to as "Ruby'd" (As in: Eliminated by 'Ruby).

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @stack_harder 6h

i just use nostr and sn , but sadly it is very difficult to generate any meaningful engagement. i do like to follow along with the big names in the bitcoin space and see what they're saying etc

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @Sirkay 6h

Well, nothing bad I trying new frontiers, the environment is something else.

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @398ja 7h

I make it a habit to read from news sources or blogs I'm ideologically not aligned with, or sometimes take a look at my wife's twitter feed, in the hope to find something that will make me rethink, or even contribute to some of my convictions, but it's a completely different world to me. We're so fundamentally different in thinking it seems.

I'm def not surprised by your experience.

122 sats \ 0 replies \ @freetx 19h

They are mainly Silicon Valley types....so yes they are generally anti-bitcoin authoritarian lovers.

Anytime bitcoin comes up on HN (hackernews) the thread gets filled with "full stack PHP programmers" who hate bitcoin.

60 sats \ 3 replies \ @denlillaapan 19h

laugh laugh laugh laugh

Nah seriously I'm kind of disappointed but also not. Like, what is wrong with people's brains?

Thanks for taking a beating on our behalf, fighting the good fight etc

11 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby OP 19h

The guy that said Bitcoin was fascist and anti-human. I was just shocked. I replied "how can an open, uncensorable protocol, available to anyone in the world be fascist and anti-human. He went on to tell me it has been corrupted like the internet. Ok pal.

41 sats \ 0 replies \ @SpaceHodler 17h

It's good to know what the left believes, and what probably most people believe due to MSM anti-Bitcoin propaganda.

It explains why it's so hard to orange-pill the average person: they're not simply disinterested, but actively prejudiced.

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @denlillaapan 18h

Ugh.

Yeah, again. Braincells.

Is it the vegetarian diet these schmucks follow? Is it the soy? The seed oil? The vaxx?

I am at a loss to account for stupidity :/

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @Public_N_M_E 19h

I was under the impression that bluesky was supposed to be Blockchain based...

Now, firstly I recognise that Blockchain ≠ Bitcoin. However, most interactions I've had with people who understand Blockchain are pretty pro bitcoin. It seems odd to me that (if I'm right in bluesky being built on Blockchain) that bitcoin reception would be so poor. Or do people just use stuff without any real understanding of what it is/does.

Likely the latter as your experience suggests.

122 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby OP 19h

It's ATProtocol not blockchain. It is supposed to be decentralized or at least more decentralized.

I don't think decentralization enthusiast are using it. Just people who are trying to escape twitter because it is not too "right wing".

41 sats \ 0 replies \ @Public_N_M_E 19h

I see! Got my wires crossed there.

I think you hit the nail on the head, it's people trying to escape twitter not decentralisation enthusiasts yet.

40 sats \ 2 replies \ @realBitcoinDog 18h

I'll zap you 100 sats for your efforts!

labelled as spam what a classic!

Even as we're about to hit 1 sat = 1 sat the haters can't stop.

I appreciate how hard it was for you not to troll!

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby OP 18h

I have now been let out of my BlueSky prison but I don't know how not to go back. I am not sure rehabilitation worked.

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @realBitcoinDog 18h

well now you can go back and troll all you want and see if you can get banned haha

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 18h

I joined it back when it first when public and it was so dead… now it just seems to be the echo chamber of the Left.

What I find hilarious though is how politicians and all these other big names continue to only post on X even though they hate it and talk up BlueSky

40 sats \ 1 reply \ @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears 19h

I wonder if people on BlueSky realize that to really succeed, it does need to diversify (same issue with Nostr, but that's a separate situation). When Twitter "worked" ten years ago, it wasn't just lefties or righties or bitcoiners or shitcoiners or punk rockers or classical music fans or sports fans. It was all of those. Each community was able to exist, and folks could focus on the ones they cared about. Having only one area of interest isn't sustainable.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 16h

Interesting point although I'd say it took all this time for tribal language and customs to develop. Similar to how you can never start a proper Bitcoin today, you can't start a culturally neutral online community today.

41 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 19h

Haha! You triggered the blob's immune system and it spat you out.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby OP 19h

Yes but I am free from my chains now. It appears to have been temporary imprisonment.

31 sats \ 0 replies \ @028559d218 17h

Dude people get Bitcoin at the the price they deserve. Eventually I believe people will figure it out... eventually.

And this is coming from a 'leftist' former Republican now Libertarian-blue-party-refugee LOL

40 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 19h

Have you looked into how spam is determined?

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby OP 19h

BlueSky moderation. I tried to see if there was a way to appeal but couldn't figure it out.

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @JesseJames 19h

WTF is BlueSky...? lol

"...Blue skies smiling at me Nothing but blue skies do I see

Blue birds singing a song Nothing but blue skies from now on.."

That's all I know about the BlueSky :-)

18 sats \ 0 replies \ @ShibatoshiNakamoto 19h freebie

Its a same shit as twitter, but with different name.

Only SN is great.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satoshi__Nakamoto 17h outlawed

stackers have outlawed this. turn on wild west mode in your /settings to see outlawed content.