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I love stacker news. Sometimes a little too much. I love the connections I make here. I love feeling seen. This feels like my second place, not my third place. And I like stacking sats. It is called stacker news after all. We are all ass milking a little I think. 🤔
Desert Dave is essentially a character. It is largely based on me, but it's not all that I am. It's just an avatar and a voice that I speak from when I am online.
A while back I had a brilliant idea to make a second account. It didn't occur to me that this would be frowned upon whatsoever. And I had no intention of interacting between the 2 accounts. I just wanted to speak from a new voice and reach a different set of people. I really didn't think it through as far as what it would be like to use 2 accounts at once. I wanted to keep them very separated. I didn't see any harm in it.
So I am made the account and logged in on a different machine to get started. I immediately realized how much different it is posting from a brand new account vs. a more established one. Good job builders. No one really cared about or saw what I was sharing. And it was challenging juggling 2 personalities.
And then I committed the real sin. I used the second account to interact with a couple of posts by DesertDave to try and help move conversation along. Literally it probably happened like 5 times and it was completely ineffective. And I felt bad for some reason. While I couldn't see anything morally wrong with it, it felt bad. It felt dishonest. And it was too much to try and juggle in my mind anyway. So I stopped. The account is gone now.
The experience made me feel grateful for the engagement that I get here by just being one voice with one avatar. It was right after that, I started to hear the expressions 'ass milker' and 'sock puppet accounts' thrown around. And I felt grateful I had pulled out of the second account when I did before I got called out.
I personally don't want to ever come across as inauthentic or a liar. I want to have a strong reputation here. I don't care at all If other people's want to try and pull this off. I don't see what is so bad about it. Like sharing something AI generated. Is it wrong? I don't think so. Is it engaging, probably not. I say let everyone do as they please. The incentives always win out. I don't see any reason to be angry at people for trying different things.
So what do you think? Does anyone else have any similar story. I am hoping I'm not alone here. Do you think it's a bad thing to have more than one account? Why do you think that? Do you think I am an ass-milker? Will you forgive my sins?
Thank you for sharing.
There are perfectly good reasons to have multiple accounts, including trying out a different character.
I would prefer people not create fake conversations between their own accounts, but I don't really care if they do.
A good system doesn't require people to be on their best behavior, it guides them towards their best behavior.
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Yes, also the best systems, through their incentives guide behavior into acceptable channels. This is probably one of the huge failures in today’s society: unlinking incentives from desired behavoir.
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This Makes a lot of sense.
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The best example of when incentives are disconnected from desired behaviors is leftism/socialism/communism. It has failed everywhere it has been tried.
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A good system doesn't require people to be on their best behavior, it guides them towards their best behavior.
This is a profound thought..I have never heard this before. I love it. Thank you for sharing.
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You're welcome. I'm glad twenty years of studying economics has yielded some valuable insights.
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I have been saying that incentives are everything. And I feel like this expands on that in a beautiful way.
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281 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 5 Dec
I think it's actually kind of cool that you tested having two different accounts with two different characters behind them. I think that is experimenting not assmilking. That's quite different from someone using multiple sock puppet accounts to get extra rewards or promote their work.
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That's good to hear. I was kind of afraid to share this truth.. feels good to share about.
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Not all assmilkers are sock puppets accounts, but all sock puppets accounts are assmilkers.
I forgive you Dave.
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Thank you. 💚
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I am so confused and yet entertained by this statement.
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The thank you? Or the whole OP?
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I think he meant my comment 🤣
A sentence that makes sense on SN, and SN only lol
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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @jasonb 5 Dec
Yeah, I mean both concepts are elusive and hilarious to me, but that comment was particularly enjoyable.
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That makes more sense. It is quite a quote out of context. It's funny because I didn't laugh when I saw it at first and now that I think about it. 🤣 I was being grateful that I have been forgiven..
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674 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 5 Dec
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Now or really feel forgiven. Thank you @k00b. I'm secretly seeking your approval just a little because you seem like a good dude and since I get to see you on the YouTube, it's more real. Keep up the good work.
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Who am I to forgive you while I'm being continuously blamed and attacked for the same? I can only appreciate your confession and other thoughts. Thank you for posting this interesting stuff.
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That's okay. I don't really need forgiveness. I am not sure why I wrote that.
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It's cool you can write so perfectly without being so sure. There were times when I tried writing like this on SN but not now. I'm clueless why I was attacked. I did nothing wrong except supporting @Imyourfed because I felt he was right.
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So sorry you’re going through this just for supporting me.I know he started to attack you only after you supported me, and you see everyone is realizing it too.
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Please don't feel sorry. It's not you alone who was being molested by a bully who is not even ashamed of his wrongdoings. I accept I was dejected when he made real ugly when he took 'mother' into it.
But I've recollected my strengths and I'm ready to fight it out to correct it. If I ever see him disrespect or hurt or molest or bully anyone again, I'm gonna downzap him, no matter I get support from others or not. I'll reveal his true identity to everyone, no matter what it's gonna cost.
If he can't respect others, he surely doesn't deserve respect from me.
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That's the spirit! Together we can make SN community more stronger and against the bad actors like Darth when they spread hatred, and abuse others. Thanks again!
And thanks to @desertdave who despite being called out names and being bullied still he never stopped spreading his kindness and proving Darth wrong that his abuse won't continue for long!
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This is the way. I know I can reply him with words but I think he feeds on it and that's why downzapping is the weapon Stackers have got to use more against him.
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This is definitely one way to deal with it. Ask @Imyourfed, how I was so damn sure that he should just ignore him and continue his good work. But now he's crossed the limits.
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110 sats \ 1 reply \ @zapsammy 5 Dec
ur experience is analogous to the phrase "spreading oneself thin." if u are compartmentalizing multiple personas, the effect is a compartmentalized mind that does not necessarily work as one unit. really depends how much you are spreading out and how much effort u invest into such an arrangement.
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Definitely..I felt this immediately.
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If @grayruby wants to zap me double from his personal and his “official” @StackerSports account, I won’t complain!
It’s ok to both want to stack sats and make friends.
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I didn't even notice the 2 accounts. I just associate stackersports with @grayruby.
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The other account is to drum up fake support for @Undisciplined’s dumpster fire of a weekly fictional Raiders draft.
cope
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Those posts don't need support. They're just public therapy sessions for a tortured fan.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 5 Dec
Your wise is my command.
1 sat from each.
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As it should be
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11 sats \ 2 replies \ @xz 6 Dec
I totally agree with below, and recommend everyone does it if they want to. btw, what does ass milk mean? I keep getting nasty images in my mind.
Wearing different clothes everyday is living in a grown-ups world.
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what does ass milk mean?
That is the question of the week. @Scoresby did some research.
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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @xz 6 Dec
Appreciated. I'll follow the milky white bunny over there ; )
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Ass milking. Not a fan of the term what are we teenagers
If your having multiple accounts that’s fine as long as it isn’t just to pump your own content
Very common for people to have multiple social accounts for personal and business or groups etc it’s all the same
If desert Dave is just for your territory management and you have beach Dave for your real individual self then have at it
Best regards
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I agree on the term. it's a little silly
Beach Dave. Intriguing. I don't think it fits since I have been to the beach like 5 times ever. Wouldn't feel right.
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Yes that was more of an example haha maybe justdave haha
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Duplicity and dishonesty are usually a bad things. Just because it might be easy to do and others might do it, does not make it right.
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Didn't feel right to me
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11 sats \ 5 replies \ @Roll 5 Dec
For me, no point for a 2nd account, no need to get more posts, more sats, it takes a lot of time...
Why you need to ask it "Do you think I am an ass-milker" ? I will say if you ask, is it because you feel like? Now, just correct your behaviour/post ....we are here to learn on this planet.
"Will you forgive my sins?" I do not forgive as it will show that i m superior to you which is not the case So as i mentioned, learn from your mistake... and move forward
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I don't really feel like I need to be forgiven and I know I am not an ass-milker. Just throwing questions out, a little tongue in check I guess. I was being somewhat vulnerable in sharing this. Also I just wanted to have a discussion and get an idea how stackers feel about this topic.
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11 sats \ 3 replies \ @Roll 5 Dec
the only truth is inside...
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I feel that and I agree. I am not looking for my truth here. I just like talking to you all so much.
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11 sats \ 1 reply \ @Roll 5 Dec
Good luck in your quest :)
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Don't hate the player, Hate the game. Your attention is priceless. Social media addiction is real.
Play dumb games, Win small prizes. Its not about the sats we won...
But the Coins we didn't even swing at because we were busy winning dumb games.
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Beautifully said. 💚
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11 sats \ 1 reply \ @Aardvark 5 Dec
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Literally the only thing I can think about now when I see the term ass milker.
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11 sats \ 1 reply \ @Satosora 5 Dec
I dont know. I dont think it is worthwhile to do anything with an alternate account, but other people seem to find success. To each their own. Just not a fan of them on SN. Milking away a living on here.
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Seems like a lot to me. I like it simple.
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I had already confessed before that when I joined SN , unfortunately, my colleagues got to know about it. I didn't want them to know my activities, so I created this one lol. At first, it would have been fine because I have always been a lurker, but I decided to open up this time and share stuff I really like. Now my main account is completely inactive, and I use this one only.
Do you think it's a bad thing to have more than one account? Why do you think that? Do you think I am an ass-milker? Will you forgive my sins?
Opening up and keeping things transparent, you earned forgiveness by that. Also, it would be a huge burden to maintain more than one accounts just for manipulating a couple of sats. It's better to get a life and a job to stack sats in most productive way.
Thanks for sharing.
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Thank you for sharing your story about it. I like that you are opening up.. keep going.. I appreciate your presence here.
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I had shared this many times openly, and I didn't even know it's not a good thing here until Darth started to accuse me.
Thanks
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Well from the looks of it, it's not that big of a deal. It really depends on how you use the accounts probably. Which makes sense. But part of me thought I might get ostracized for sharing this. Feels good to get it out. Now it feels like such a small thing..
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I'm really happy that you're not feeling guilty anymore!
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I guess you had to try something new! You discovered that it is not only frowned upon, but it does not work particularly well, either. You learned the hard lesson, then. The other folks doing the same thing will probably learn the same lesson somewhere along the line.
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