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It's a common funny trope and/or slander, that economists are TOTAL GRINCHES.
Every time the holidays come around, some uppity schmuck with an econ degree will point out that Christmas gift giving is inefficient—and the worst part is that he (yes "he") is right! Anyone who's tried to come up with a decent gift for someone who has everything they want (well-off relatives and/or grandpas or dads are typical examples here) know well these problems: Anything you could gift them, and that they would like, they could have already gotten for themselves.
Besides, we aren't always so satisfied with the gifts we receive. Explains Tyler Cowen for Marginal Revolution University, eloquent as ever:
...you face a knowledge problem: you don’t know everything about [your gift receiver's] wants and needs. You also have an incentive problem: oftentimes people aren’t quite as careful choosing a gift for others as they would be if buying something for themselves. We’ve all received a present that we didn’t really want. When that happens, the value that we place on the gift can be less than its cost. According to research by economist Joel Waldfogel, gift givers spend an average of $50 on gifts that recipients only value at $40.
It's settled: Christmas gift giving is one big, inefficient loss-maker.
Now, you could try to rescue the gift-giving tradition here by invoking subjective value (#798342) and that the purpose is social and/or communal rather than strictly profit- or utility-maximizing. That's fair. But less fun—and less economics-y:

OK, so what's this got to do with money?

Money is the most salable, most liquid, most easily tradable good (=item, token, etc—pick whichever term you prefer) in the economy.
That grinch economist from above? He always seems to suggest that money is the best gift; it keeps intact the gift-giving such that you cannot face a monetary loss. $50 to you is the same as $50 to me? (ah, shit... marginal utility of income/wealth vs interpersonal utility comparisons...). But point stands: You can just go out and buy the things that you want. Moreover, money is FUNGIBLE, so you can it with previous holdings that add up for a larger purchase, or stash it into savings.
Yes, but boring. And giving people physical cash in the year of our lord 2024 might just inconvenience them. If they, like me, live in mostly cashless societies, a cash gift just saddles me with extra hurdles! What, you gonna Venmo them their Christmas gift?! Time an ACH transfer for Christmas Day (oops, banks closed... #fiatmoney).
OK, so then give gift cards? It's money, it's spendable, but it's a gift?
Yes, nice try. Even aside from the deadweight losses or information problems arising from gift-giving, gifting something that is even a smudge less liquid than the most liquid thing introduces problems: It's just a worse, clunky form of money since I can only spend it in one store!
And as I pointed out in a cute Christmas-y article about five years ago, gift cards definitely have more moneyness than other things:
When I give my sister a nonfiction book for Christmas, neither of us presumes that she’ll use it in payments for food, rent, clothes, travel, or something else that she desires. Indeed, you’d be hard pressed to find anybody who’d accept a 300-odd-page chunk of paper adorned with the Penguin Press stamp in exchange for anything, so she couldn’t really trade it away even if she wanted to.
If I give her a gift card to Strand in New York or Foyles in London — two of our favorite bookstores in the world — I very much expect her to trade away that little piece of plastic for some literary masterpiece, but I’d be surprised if Strand uses that card in turn to pay its suppliers. That’s possible, as employee-privilege trade credits do exist (and restaurants and cafés around the world habitually provide their employees with food as part of their compensation), but unlikely.
yeaah... but they also get stuck. It's kind of tricky to spend unless you have an immediate and obvious expense coming up. I sat on two Amazon gift cards this year for about six months—having no occasion to place an order from there just yet. In the meantime, those sneaky proto-banks enjoy the free float (#743123). Can't say my heart made Christmas snow angles from knowing that I ever so slightly helped bankroll Amazon.
Ergo, gift cards just aren't that money-like; they're very clunky, and don't actually have that much moneyness.

Bitcoiners have this conundrum SOOOOR-TEEED: Satscards! (or any other such product...)
It's actual money—our money!—in a fancy-looking card. What's not to like?!
Anyway, this MONEY CLASS doesn't have much of a conclusion, except perhaps that I get to hammer home "Money is the most salable, most liquid, most easily tradable good"—repeat this phrase seven times in front of the mirror, and then sometime in the after-dinner lull, perhaps the moment presents itself where your newfound knowledge can humbly shine!
Tl;dr: maybe we assign Christmas a(n monetary) economics-free zone? where magical shit like flying reindeers and Santa Clauses happen but thorough economic analysis is left at the door.
MERRY CHRISTMAS, STACKERS!
That's today's little money lesson Peace /J
66 sats \ 6 replies \ @grayruby 5h
Quite efficient at making my 6 year old smile. So well worth it.
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What made him smile, the sats you gave him? You could give him a nice card with a note in it with a number of sats. Or, even better yet, give him the gift of a paper wallet with sats on it! Will that give him a smile?
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but in which form, ruby?! Notes, bank deposits, satscards?
(also, you mean "effective"—not "efficient")
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66 sats \ 3 replies \ @grayruby 5h
Any sort of present that someone who loves her gave to her makes her smile. She isn't thinking about monetary value or the production cost of the item, she is just thinking someone she loves got something special just for her and that makes her smile.
Ok effective, but also efficient (as noted above it doesn't take much money or effort to produce the desired result).
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The problem is what people define as effective. My wife prefers a gift that I thought about and actually went out and purchased (even if online). Something, chosen by me with her in mind, to give to her, without her knowing what it will be. That makes her smile!
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Ugh, yeah... I didn't read/register this comment particularly well. It's late; I should be sleeping, not SNing
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Sometimes you just have to get it out of yourself. So, pound away at that keyboard!
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Are you freaking kidding me?!! Invoking the name of Black Santa n warning my son that he won’t get any Xmas gifts is the only thing that helps me to get him to eat his meals obediently this month. 😂
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Gift giving is great, it's a way to shape someone's preferences in a way that they never would have attempted to themselves :)
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You would bring rational self interest into the picture, wouldn't you? Classic economist.
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If you consider it conditioning, then he would be a psychologist!
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No, "nudge theory" is part of modern econ, although it definitely overlaps with psych.
More importantly, though, is that he's suggesting a self-interested motivation for gift giving, which resolves all of the issues raised in the post.
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Hahahahaah... If I give a nice gift to my wife, I think there is a smidgen of self-interested motivation for gift giving!!! ;) It would resolve all the issues raised by the post, indeed. I absolutely despise that "nudge theory: and the way it is used. It is a way to force people to do what you wish using their desires to not get damaged or to get something. It is nothing more than sales technique, using the two greatest motivators: fear and greed!!
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Behavioral psychology, I mean economics
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*Behavioral psychology + a real theoretical framework + rigorous empirical techniques
There's a reason the Replication Crisis was so much worse in psychology than in economics:
  • Economists throw spaghetti at the wall and see what stuck. Sure they do it more than once and write about the one they liked more.
  • Psychologists throw spaghetti at the wall and pretend it supports what they wanted to say in the first place. Sometimes they just pretend that they threw the spaghetti.
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It goes differently if you use logic and a priori premises. It is not quite the same as spaghetti on the wall (Keynesianism).
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I’m describing what economists actually do, not what they should do.
I didn’t tell my joke correctly
I was making fun of behavioral economics by Thaler
Ariely makes some interesting points
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Wasn't Ariely one of Francesca Geno's coauthors on one of her fraudulent studies? I wonder if he made a statement.
For some reason I never trusted Ariely, he seems like a smooth talker. I admit that my suspicions are entirely aesthetic
I'm trying to make fun of both, but psychology is much worse, despite how bad econ can be.
The educational, aspirational shock factor!
Love it
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It works well for those doing it!
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Isn't that called operant conditioning? :)
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11 sats \ 1 reply \ @jimmysong 2h
We don't act like that because we're not homo economicus, but people with relationships, emotions, goals and dreams.
Also, Asian cultures just give money a lot of the time. It's a lot like dating people are hoping to get a good deal (paying $50 for a gift that the recipient will value at more than $50, or getting someone slightly higher value on the dating market), but most of the time it's a futile exercise and everyone loses.
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paying 50 bucks for a date sounds like only fans or twitch
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Like any economist, as you note, I've considered writing a post along these lines. Yours is better than mine would have been, though. Very lively.
There's a great cycle problem that illustrates irrational preferences (or it really doesn't for reasons you hint at):
  • Gifts > no gifts
  • Gift cards > gifts
  • Cash > Gift cards
  • Digital money > Cash
  • No gifts > digital money (why pay a bunch of transaction fees just swapping ledger entries with each other?)
Blank out,
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Perhaps the inequality Digital money > Cash is perceived by the nocoiner as not true. The way they might see it is Digital money = Cash or even Cash > Digital money. The subjective view of the recipient would be the ruling view of the value of the gift.
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"Digital money" doesn't have to mean bitcoin or crypto. I was mostly thinking of something like Venmo or Paypal accounts.
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Haha this is lovely! Poor rational beings get stuck in infinite loop
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Not if you can break out of it through subjective valuations!!
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There needs to be a term for this type of thing: overwhelmingly logical refutations of the value of things people clearly like.
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How would unreality work?
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I give cash to family
Gift cards for secret Santa
Wine is relatively cheap and easy
I received Scotch whiskey 🥃 yesterday from a close friend. Oban
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All I want for Christmas is 2 sats
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Ok, you got 'em. :)
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💪
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I personally like cash gifts. We don't have Santas around but our festivals and other occasions are often highly cash.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bief57 2h
My daughter (7 years old) gave me 3 options of possible gifts that she would like: 1- Furby 2- A wallet (for girls) 3- Money
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I took intro to microeconomics taught by Joel Waldfogel. Great teacher, very nice person.
I read his article titled the deadweight loss of Christmas gift giving in 2006
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