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10 sats \ 32 replies \ @Bell_curve 26 Dec 2024 \ parent \ on: India: It’s Worse Than You Think BooksAndArticles
You are correct. Germany and America are worse than India. India should stop sending people to Germany and USA. I support this policy.
I am not against voluntary immigration though.
And until the 60s, I would say that American foreign policy was not that bad. In the late 40s Americans didn't kill the Emperor of Japan for example. On the contrary recently (around 15 years ago I believe) the military didn't hesitate to kill Saddam Hussein even though it would make Irak a chaotic country.
That being said it is not black and white, and given past COVID policies I would be tempted to visit Texas for example, while avoiding Washington and New York.
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Yes, those places are sh*tholes now due to lefty/Marxist/socialist/communist/murderers being in political power. More will die and more will be made paupers. That is the only outcome unless people revolt.
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The reason invading Iraq was a mistake in 2003 is that it made Iran geopolitically stronger
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What is voluntary immigration? What is involuntary immigration?
My point is pause immigration from India and the Third World. EU and USA have no other choice.
You say the issue isn't black and white but your immediately played the Nazi card and the atomic bomb card.
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Those cards are, indeed, true and playable. However, trying to guilt trip people won’t work any more. It is a card that has been worn down and marked in the deck so badly all people know it.
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Once you invoke Nazi analogies, you have lost the argument and credibility
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Voluntary as someone who lawfully immigrated somewhere from his own will.
Involuntary, typically like Afghans coming to Europe.
Can a country stop immigration? I am an immigrant, my grand parents were too. Hard to control if it is lawful and welcome.
Sorry for playing the atomic bomb card, you can replace it by the Afghanistan war card.
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Doesn’t matter what you think when you like to guilt trip people who had nothing to do with the original sin. That is just plain evil. You don’t put the sins of the fathers on the children or this sh*t will never stop.
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Regarding immigration, absolutely countries can stop it if they choose to.
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Let us assume this is correct. Japan chose from the 17th century to the middle of the 19th century to reduce connections with the outside world and didn't succeed.
Cuba had famously many people escaping the country so they didn't stop the outflow.
During covid, people could still go from Argentina to Uruguay through the Rio de la Plata river.
So my conclusion: I have some doubts about your comment, see above some counter-examples.
However if your point is stopping mass immigration in Europe because of war, then yes I am convinced this is a problem of choice. Although some people will find loopholes so totally I don't think this is possible, and I am not against voluntary and lawful immigration.
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The problem in Europe is the political leaders choose to import third world immigrants when the voters have said no. Same with America.
Japan succeeded with he closure all through the Tokugawa Bakufu. It was only opened up by the outside with the force of cannons. They would have gone along with it for as long as they could have. A better example would be China closing itself by destroying all of its blue water ships.
Poland has found a way to stop all immagration coming into the country: they have authorized the boarder guards to shoot to kill. That’s how they are defending the boarders.
I have examples too
North Korea border
Berlin Wall
Great Wall of China
12 million unlawful immigrants into USA since 2021 and USA can’t stop it? Let’s see what happens after January 20
Of course, you are making a statement about the political leader that are running the governments right now, correct? Aren’t most of them involved motherWEFers?
WEF is doing this for THEMSELVES.
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If lawful and welcome
Big IF
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You do know that the US cut immigration to zero from the late 1920s to 1968, right. There was very little legal immigration until our friends the Demoncrats made new laws to open immigration again.
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of course
1924 Immigration Act
1965 Immigration and Naturalization Act
There was also the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882 which was repealed in 1950