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10 sats \ 73 replies \ @john_doe 24 Dec 2024 \ on: India: It’s Worse Than You Think BooksAndArticles
India is far from perfect but I am tempted to say they didn't create concentration camps like Germans and didn't play with atomic bombs like Americans. I am not sure also leaving India for a country where they forced injections (Canada) and impose socialist doctrines is a good choice.
That being said, in my opinion the biggest problem of India are roads. If only they could add roundabouts/traffic signals, I think quality of life would improve vastly.
India is ruled by Fabians, so why worry about lefty/Marxist/socialist/communist/murderers.
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I have never been in political circles in India, so I concede you this one if you did or know better.
Still, I don't judge Americans based on Biden, just what as a society everyone does. I see there is more freedom than in Japan in many respect, nobody or very few people wear masks, traditional medicine is very present, you can get non chemical food, boxing in India is quite good, very good service, etc. The list of positive things about India is quite long.
Inversely, last time I went back to Japan, everyone were wearing masks, food became worse, service was frankly bad in some places. They don't even give you plastic bags when you obviously need one now in Japan, you have to ask (who is not afraid of global warming).
By the way I have never lived in North India, only the South, so I can't judge the North. So if your judgement is based on the North I concede you could be right as well.
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The most south that I got was Mysore. I spent time in Rajastan and across northern India. I spent some time in Panaji in Goa on the beaches. I went everywhere by slow trains and local busses. I wanted to go to Tamil Nadu but the heat was getting too oppressive for me.
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I see, nice trip. I have been living in Kerala and Karnataka only.
When I go to a foreign country I try to be far from the government and tourists, so in Thailand I avoid Bangkok for example. Maybe next time you go to India, try to be far from Delhi and be with locals.
I am used to landscapes in Japan so for me Kerala had breathtaking landscapes, with tea plantations also.
Until now people I heard who reported negative things about India were people who went to the North.
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Think I might at least give it a try.
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India has more freedom than Japan?
What's next, India is safer than Japan?
edit: a woman is more likely to be raped in India than Japan and it's not even close
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Going by mask wearing is a losing game. Mask wearing is a cultural thing that has been going on in Japan for a long time. They wear them when they think they may be sick or under the weather, not for protection from disease. It is a sign of courtesy for other people to wear the mask.
While I was there, I hated them and never wore them.
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Voluntary mask wearing vs Compulsory
Pyramid of evil:
concentration camps
atomic bomb
wearing masks
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Why use a pyramid? All of this evil is just one big blob of darkness and evil. I mean how can you make the levels of the pyramid when there is so much lying about it going on?
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obviously I'm being sarcastic
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Not quite so obviously because this is what the lefty/Marxist/socialist/communist/murderers like to do: create pyramids of badnesses with all the different levels and gradients. So it is not so obvious if you pay attention to what they say and how they say it.
Regarding safety I don't know. I didn't live in (South) India enough time, although never had a problem there. Regarding freedom, I meant in everyday life. Maybe you would prefer "lack of rules". An example which comes to mind, try to launch fireworks in the sky in a city in Japan you run into troubles. Call that freedom or lack of rules. When individuals have more room to behave I am tempted to call that freedom.
Another fun example: try to ride a bicycle in Japan with 2 people, you will have the police calling you. Not in India.
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Yes, the rules are enforced differently in Japan and India. In India you have lathi carrying police that demand their cut from you. In Japan the rules are enforced by everybody and policemen do not require bakshish from you.
Yeah, they are different, but which would you rather have?
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I totally agree that bribe is an issue and although I didn't experience it I think I just didn't stay long enough for that in India. Did you experience it in the North? If yes, can you describe what kind?
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I had to pay bribes when I got the one express train I took while there. The bribe and the ticket price were the same. Got a nice “Tika” and head swril out of it though. I really didn’t mind that one, because I got the ticket for that day for onward travel.
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Bribery has been rampant in India since 1948
United Nations or IMF has an annual report ranking the most corrupt countries
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I didn't know. Is it the ranking on transparency.org?
India is less corrupted than Thailand according to this index. Given that I never got "arrested" in (South) India and didn't have to pay foreigner prices (I think) it matches my experience.
Fireworks and 2 person bicycles?
Are you 12 years old?
Grow up
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My point is living in Japan you feel the presence of the State more than in India. It is a feeling, hence admittedly likely biased.
Anyway, other examples for adults: rules for the medical checkup at work, and rule for any device emitting radio waves (e.g.: if you come live in Japan with a device not regulated by the Japanese government you are illegal and could be sanctioned, even if it uses the ISM bands).
Please note, I am not anti-government, I am against too much government.
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Rules are different wherever you go! You didn’t notice that? If you went to Pakistan and tried to buy beer or whiskey, you would have a very difficult time. Smuggling silver and gold out of India into Nepal was a no-no, too. Rules change by countries because cultures are different.
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I see... when did you leave Japan for India?
Japan has a declining population.
India have over 1 trillion.
Japan is or will be less crowded.
Are you fluent in Japanese? What Indian language do you use?
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Actually, over 1 billion.
Japan is perhaps more crowed if you go to Kanto or Kansai areas. The rest of Japan is mostly mountainous. Those are some of the few places where there is enough flat ground for building cities. So, they are very heavily populated. The countryside not so much. Though I have to say you will never see situations in Japan like in Calcutta or Bombay, or even Delhi or New Delhi.
2 years ago, but I didn't leave Japan strictly speaking. I still use my Japanese driver license for example. And I am traveling so it is not only India but other countries in Asia too.
I speak fluently Japanese, if by speaking fluently you mean reading/writing/speaking fluently. I don't speak Hindi (not even thank you), so conversations are in English.
I am not sure to understand what you meant with the population decrease but I still prefer Japan over India, however I didn't agree with OP about his views of India, for the reasons mentioned previously. I learned many things in India and other Asian countries, and I believe India is still a great civilization which influenced Japan as well by the way.
You are correct. Germany and America are worse than India. India should stop sending people to Germany and USA. I support this policy.
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I am not against voluntary immigration though.
And until the 60s, I would say that American foreign policy was not that bad. In the late 40s Americans didn't kill the Emperor of Japan for example. On the contrary recently (around 15 years ago I believe) the military didn't hesitate to kill Saddam Hussein even though it would make Irak a chaotic country.
That being said it is not black and white, and given past COVID policies I would be tempted to visit Texas for example, while avoiding Washington and New York.
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Yes, those places are sh*tholes now due to lefty/Marxist/socialist/communist/murderers being in political power. More will die and more will be made paupers. That is the only outcome unless people revolt.
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The reason invading Iraq was a mistake in 2003 is that it made Iran geopolitically stronger
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What is voluntary immigration? What is involuntary immigration?
My point is pause immigration from India and the Third World. EU and USA have no other choice.
You say the issue isn't black and white but your immediately played the Nazi card and the atomic bomb card.
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Those cards are, indeed, true and playable. However, trying to guilt trip people won’t work any more. It is a card that has been worn down and marked in the deck so badly all people know it.
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Once you invoke Nazi analogies, you have lost the argument and credibility
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Voluntary as someone who lawfully immigrated somewhere from his own will.
Involuntary, typically like Afghans coming to Europe.
Can a country stop immigration? I am an immigrant, my grand parents were too. Hard to control if it is lawful and welcome.
Sorry for playing the atomic bomb card, you can replace it by the Afghanistan war card.
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Doesn’t matter what you think when you like to guilt trip people who had nothing to do with the original sin. That is just plain evil. You don’t put the sins of the fathers on the children or this sh*t will never stop.
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Regarding immigration, absolutely countries can stop it if they choose to.
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Let us assume this is correct. Japan chose from the 17th century to the middle of the 19th century to reduce connections with the outside world and didn't succeed.
Cuba had famously many people escaping the country so they didn't stop the outflow.
During covid, people could still go from Argentina to Uruguay through the Rio de la Plata river.
So my conclusion: I have some doubts about your comment, see above some counter-examples.
However if your point is stopping mass immigration in Europe because of war, then yes I am convinced this is a problem of choice. Although some people will find loopholes so totally I don't think this is possible, and I am not against voluntary and lawful immigration.
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The problem in Europe is the political leaders choose to import third world immigrants when the voters have said no. Same with America.
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Yes, it means there will eventually be new ornaments on trees and lampposts!! They will get what they earned.
Japan succeeded with he closure all through the Tokugawa Bakufu. It was only opened up by the outside with the force of cannons. They would have gone along with it for as long as they could have. A better example would be China closing itself by destroying all of its blue water ships.
Poland has found a way to stop all immagration coming into the country: they have authorized the boarder guards to shoot to kill. That’s how they are defending the boarders.
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I have examples too
North Korea border
Berlin Wall
Great Wall of China
12 million unlawful immigrants into USA since 2021 and USA can’t stop it? Let’s see what happens after January 20
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The Great Wall of China, interestingly enough, has the battlements facing the interior of China not Tartaria. It may have been the Tartarians that built the wall to keep the Chinese on their side of the wall.
I have to say those walls by-and-largely worked. You forgot to mention the walls around our friend Israel. They work very well until they break them down with tanks.
I am curious to know as well. For unlawful immigration I have no doubt it can be stopped.
Of course, you are making a statement about the political leader that are running the governments right now, correct? Aren’t most of them involved motherWEFers?
WEF is doing this for THEMSELVES.
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If lawful and welcome
Big IF
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You do know that the US cut immigration to zero from the late 1920s to 1968, right. There was very little legal immigration until our friends the Demoncrats made new laws to open immigration again.
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of course
1924 Immigration Act
1965 Immigration and Naturalization Act
There was also the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882 which was repealed in 1950
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So, immigration was both unwelcome and unlawful during that period. Imagine that. Now we have open borders and tons of illegal immigrants of military age and look. It appears to be more of an invasion than immigration (where are the women and children coming in families).