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436 sats \ 18 replies \ @k00b 4 Jan \ on: Any way to disable sending Cowboy Credits entirely? meta
Even if the recipient wants CCs, you don't want them to have them?
We aren't doing this for our own benefit. Many stackers won't run nodes or connect to external services, and even for those that do, it will be unreliable or inefficient to route real sats in some cases. CCs are there so that someone creating value gets something when their lightning situation is insufficient, and then they can use those CCs to earn to real bitcoin.
You know what feels off to me? The level of cynicism I'm seeing around this change. All CCs, except for when territory founders use them to pay their territory fees, end up back in the rewards pool or territory revenue and are paid out as real sats to stackers.
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People are always cynical about change. That shouldn't come as a surprise.
It will all resolve itself in the coming days and weeks.
You guys worked your asses off and achieved your goal.
I am sure there will be some turnover as there was when territories launched. New people who join will just be initiated into the new paradigm.
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You're right. I just overestimated the number of people that understood the change. I must've thought all the outrage had been discharged in the pinned posts.
I was telling ek that the outrage feels qualitatively different. He disagreed. To my side, a change that presupposes customer action should result in more outrage relative to a change that's more superficial (like territories).
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You're right. I just overestimated the number of people that understood the change.
Speaking as a teacher, I've found that you can tell someone something even 5 times and they still won't remember it. You can even ask them, "Do you understand?" And they'll say yes, but a week later they already forgot.
A friend of mine who worked as a hospital CEO said that if he really wants a communication to stick, he needs to make the announcement at least 7 times.
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To me it's about transparency and clarity, I don't doubt SNs intentions. The mechanics around zaps are very different now, without the UI having changed to the same extent.
To stackers living in the CC verse, who mainly used SN as pay to post, and then used the sats they earned to post again, things haven't changed much.
From the perspective of a stacker who mostly zaps without posting, they now have less control on who actually gets the sats they put into SN. This will get better as more stackers link wallets, and payments route better, but I'd like to have the final say on who gets my sats ya know?
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Thanks for clarifying!
We have a lot to do to make the current thing work better, there are already so many combinations of configurations, but I will give you that level of control as soon as I can.
It's made the way it is because that's what we expect the average/default person to want. As we learn about the exceptions we'll accommodate them.
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Absolutely! I think it's great that so many people are learning how to do their own nodes and wallets now.
I expected it to be rocky for a while, keep up the good work.
P.S. Maybe having a static page where all of the rules regarding where sats go are explained will help appease the cynics?
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Yea it's the bane of my existence as well as a dev, but it always pays!
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I'm looking forward to paying my territory fees with cowboy credits
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“> and then they can use those CCs to earn to real bitcoin.”
Hey @k00b , I am trying to understand this last sentence of yours. How can one earn SATS using the CCs ?
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They can post and comment and zap using CCs.
- If they post, comment, and zap well according to SN's reward algorithm, SN will pay them sats as part of daily rewards.
- If they attach a wallet, their posts and comments they created using CCs can earn real bitcoin from zaps (if the zapper has attached a wallet too)
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Yeah, that's the point.
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