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Make me an offer. My territory rent is due.
41 sats \ 0 replies \ @tomlaies 22h
Exchanging back and forth to insrease my algorithm trust score on SN lol
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41 sats \ 0 replies \ @BeeAye 6 Jan
i just bought 1000 cowboy credits by accident. glad i at least changed it from the default 10000
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SN currently says 1 CC = 1 Sat, so I zapped you 440 CCs. You can send me the sats (illsoprano71@walletofsatoshi.com) after deducting the 30% Sybil fee.
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I don't accept your offer, but I'll zap you back.
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You should have included a warning note that you could decide to reject the offer. Losing 30% of my credits to the Sybil fee wasn’t a great experience.
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Every deal has two parts:
  1. Offer
  2. Acceptance
Here's some more sats. Quit whining.
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38 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 5 Jan
You should have used common sense
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Wow, this is a long thread. Have you had any takers so far, and at what exchange rate?
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No. Not yet. I think it will take a while for a fair market price to emerge.
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I don't anticipate the premium to be much. And given sybil fees on SN and routing fees on LN, there may be no market at all.
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Maybe you're right.
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I still have no idea how to use my cowboy credits so how about you just take some of my sats? ZAP! ⚡⚡⚡
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I don't either
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62 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 5 Jan
Honest this is freaking genius!
@987654321 You posted about not wanting them here is a great op for you to turn them into SATs!
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I've been offline for 48 hours and look what I've got: 500 CCs! Any tips on how to send them your way without getting hit with that 30% fee? I'm thinking 499 sats each is a fair price, don't you think? Haha!
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deal is kaput! Something's not right here. I zapped your post 111 and it took CCs from my wallet. I'm using NWC, and I'm wondering if your wallet was attached. zap isn't showing up in the logs, just the https://stacker.news/satistics. @siggy47 @ek
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55 sats \ 10 replies \ @ek 5 Jan
What does it say in satistics?
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I've turned NWC off and on again, but it's still the same. I zapped your comment 33, and it took CCs too.
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41 sats \ 8 replies \ @ek 5 Jan
@siggy47, did you detach or disable your wallet because you actually want to receive CCs?
edit: okay, no, I see that your NWC receive is still enabled.
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I suspected that might be the case, but it's happening zapping you.I tried detaching and then attaching, but it didn't work.
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22 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 5 Jan
Can you show me a screenshot of your wallet you're trying to use for sending?
Make sure your credentials are hidden.
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After spending all my CCs, I tipped your comment 22 sats. Did you receive sats or CCs?
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I am getting more confused by the minute.
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So far I haven't really stock piled any because I zap pretty often. I think If the system gets flooded with CC people may just zap more.
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Good to see you take this new development in your stride
I only have 300 CCs. Sorry that I can’t help
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This kind of trades must be OUT of SN, not through SN. That means: the sats are not sent over a SN zap, but node to node. CCs indeed are transferred through a zap or sending a DM. How much CCs do you want?
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do you want it as a test for an exchange or you want a better deal in the exchange rate? I am asking because to get some CCs you just have to send from any external wallet or node to your SN LN address the sats and will be AUTOMATICALLY converted into CCs in your SN balance. That will not be reflected in any SN account movement, is only for you visible. Is like buying yourself some CCs.
I get the point of exchanging sats for CCs when you want a better rate. I don't want to rip you off...
btw... this can be treated as a "laundering sats"... if you understand what I mean... few
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Yes, I know! I want a good deal for cheap territory rent plus sybil fee. @ek's deal was way below what I think the market will bear, but come rent due day cowboy credit hoarders might be able to earn some good sats in the future.
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sybil fee have nothing to do in a trade like this.
I can send you the CCs straight to your siggy47@stacker.news from any external wallet. But that you can do it yourself.
I can send you the CCs also from my SN account but they decided to remove the DMs where I could just send you directly the CCs. SN are so afraid LOL. So the only option is to zap you on a post. But that is not the right way. It will affect many things around, if you know what I mean.
So is clear that SN wants to fuck around with us and keep the monopoly on moving around the CCs. The chickenery is really at high levels.
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I don't think they're being deceitful at all. They are just solving a problem they are faced with. In fact, the DM plans they have for the near future would actually help things. Ending the old dm was a coding issue. They will soon release an encrypted dm feature.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Car 5 Jan
darthcoin rn 😂 is this from all the cowboy credit milking you've been doing? 🤣
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you still don't get it: for me the CCs are like WoW gold. Play the game and you will see what I mean.
and don't forget: Darth is always right @remindme in 1 year
I hope so. But I doubt they will let stackers to trade on DMs.... For me is very clear now: SN is really afraid, they have really small balls.
Until the leaderboard and rewards will not be removed, the CC-sats trades will affect directly the whole thing. And will be a mess.
Siggy, l think it is still a bit early. CCs just started, people havent stockpiled them yet.
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I'm sure. I just want my offer on the table😀
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How do you think they will price out in the future? Will it be pegged to the sat?
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Of course they will always be worth less than a sat, but they will have some value because they are accepted as territory rent. It's kind of interesting. I'm sure @k00b and @ek have already figured it out.
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It's like the dudes have been reading MMTers. This is straight outta Warren Mosler
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If they knew, wouldnt they raise the territory rent? I thought they just lowered it?
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61 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 5 Jan
As far as SN is concerned, 1 CC = 1 sat.
Raising or lowering territory cost does not change that.
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Oh yes. I'm sure of that. I meant you were aware of the arbitrage games that would be played. In fact you started it!
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Congrats on buying them so cheap then lol
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20 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 5 Jan
Only two took my offer though.
I don't think the lowered rent had much to do with cowboy credits. I think it had to do with the fiat price of bitcoin doubling since rent was set, but maybe I'm mistaken.
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No, you could be right. I didnt even think of that. It would be interesting if they only had a certain amount of CCs, they could create their own economy and market. Lol
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They're like the US Treasury. They control the cc printer.
Nah, never. sats have use and value elsewhere; CCs are local to SN
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I sent you my 80 CCs.
Edit: My god it got converted into sats 😂 Did you received the Sats? Because from my side I could see them, but since yesterday I think there's some bug; it shows failed after some time.
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I just checked my node. No, I didn't get it in sats, but I think I did get the cc's
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82 sats \ 1 reply \ @NovaRift 5 Jan
I’m so sorry it failed again. I’ve zapped your post CCs once more hopefully, it works this time. 😂 Edit : It worked!
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Thanks!
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i would trade some but i have accidentally spent basically all of mine CCing comments trying to figure out how to only spend sats
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How many sats for 1000cc?
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1CC for 250 sats. I can send you 10CC.
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I'm bullish on CCs. I'm hodling them and will only trade for 100 sat = 1 CC.
I've already made the offer available.
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You think cc's are worth more than bitcoin?
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Just for fun. I was replying ek when he made offer for 1 sat = 100 sats. I said call me maxi, Shitcoiner whatever, either it should be same or maybe in future CCs become much more.
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I know. I'm kidding too😀
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