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The Economist opens this year with a major story about generational divide: "Why people over the age of 55 are the new problem generation"
I've thought about "generational conflict" now and again, trying to reason my way to some form of sane, balanced position.
It's tricky.
Old people don't do anything; they sit around, enjoy life, complain a bunch—all while seeing their stock portfolios and houses, acquired on the cheap, rise in (nominal! #737272) value faster than the 20s and 30s can (or could) ever work. Some of that wealth is well-earned; most isn't (hashtag benefit-of-moneyprinter).
Obviously it'd be self-serving of me to favor some "let's expropriate the fuckers"-type of policy. Also, it's not universalizable: Once we get old and bitcoin has done its thing, young people can sit in my chair and be annoyed at the endless wealth of early Bitcoiners, proposing this or that elaborate scheme for restitution/redistribution/expropriation.
...and on and on the endless circle of resent and inequity goes.
Now, this angle I didn't see coming. The youth sitting around and wasting their brains on addictive and anxiety-maximizing screens, while the mid-lifers are, um, having fun:
“Today, older adults are more likely to participate in the hookup culture of casual encounters and condomless sex, which might be further encouraged by the availability of drugs for sexual dysfunction, the commonality of living in retirement communities, and the increased use of dating apps for seniors,” noted Janie Steckenrider in a paper in the Lancet.

"When youthful excess is rising, it is often seen as a symbol of social decline. Fewer people worry about their ageing parents being wreckheads than the other way round."

This is pretty astonishing a development too, hardly repeatable for those age cohorts coming up after them:
For a start, those retiring today are far richer than in the past. In 1993 just over half of people over the age of 65 in Britain owned their homes outright. Now three-quarters do. Second, they now have fewer responsibilities. From the 1970s onwards, as female participation in the labour market increased, grandparents took on more child care. But in the past decade birth rates have plunged, meaning more older people have no children or grandchildren at all. And those who do may be expected to do less now than in the past. Paid-for child care has expanded and in some countries the government provides subsidised nursery places. In the Netherlands, for example, just 2% of grandparents report having to do “intensive” child care. That leaves more time for boozing.
There's an intra-generational divide, too, that many people have missed: generations aren't singular units with combined agency and experience. They contain individuals that have a variety of life outcomes:
Although baby-boomers are doing financially well in aggregate—they own half of the wealth in America, according to the Federal Reserve—many are feeling a pinch. People over 60 in America account for more than a quarter of foreclosures, up from just one in ten 20 years ago, and there has been a similar rise in bankruptcies, data from the New York Fed show.
(lol at the blunt Economist commentary: "All of those divorces are expensive.")
Yeah, I don't know what to think about these generational-type conflicts. We all have advantages and disadvantages: bitcoin and globalization and internet are obviously in the pro columns for us on the younger side; housing chaos and broken asset markets and indebted nations in the con. What gives?

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193 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 18h
Was it the Economist that had the story "You should never retire"? I thought that was funny. "Cruising the world. playing golf and spending time with family suck, you should really stay as a fiat slave forever". Maybe that wasn't quite the sub title but that's how I remember it.
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No idea, sounds plausible
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20 sats \ 0 replies \ @oklar 12h
I remember that.
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Can I take on it by Indian view of joint family and culture of respecting elders unconditionally?
I don't see our elders as a problem here.
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Agreed, this is probably a western symptom
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Westerners are more focused upon self than family and community...often to their great loss...
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i hate old people and young people equally
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105 sats \ 0 replies \ @Shugard 17h
The title alone is gold! But the article is nice as well. I have to admit that I agree more than I thought.
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53 sats \ 0 replies \ @Aardvark 17h
I never bought in to the generational conflict because it's pointless. Yes the boomers got better housing prices, great, good for them. 12000 people starve to death on this planet every single day, and I live like a king compared to all of them.
It does no good to piss and moan and be jealous about someone being marginally more lucky than me, especially if those people aren't actively trying to hurt me.
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For instance, yes.
I'm not philosophically or morally equipped to weigh these concerns against e/o
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30 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 18h
You lazy, entitled little shits! When I was a kid, I had to walk to school in the rain and snow, without shoes...
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What's school?
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Ok, narrative flip.
We keep waiting for the 4th turning, but what if the 4th turning already turned?
What if the Baby Boomers and the hippies were the "weak men" that brough about crisis, which the Millennials and Gen Z are now living through? What if Gen Alpha is the strong generation that rebuilds society on a stronger foundation??
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Mind blown.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @oklar 12h
I think it's hard to gauge from a location perspective and economic development cycles. The spoiled brat and lazy generation is a cyclical affair depending on the values of the generation instilled, and the generation that instilled values on the parents. I think it is said that it takes two generations and every third generation is wasteful.
I've never even heard of generation alpha. These terms seem unhelpful to me. It seems to ignore much of the familial and societial conditioning. But I do think you have a point in terms of rethinking the comparitive difficulties that todays younger generations face and have faced.
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I'm sure every generation gets their opportunity for prosperity. Some take and some don't.
I hear from my Boomer relatives all the time about how they used to own this or that collectors item that's now worth a fortune. It doesn't register with them that they're completely missing the point, that the people being rewarded are the ones who recognized the opportunities and acted on them. It's all just luck in their minds.
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IMO its an unpredictable mix of luck and action. For example I would decades ago bore friends and family with my constant critique of the banks and corruption of the financial system and they would ask 'but why you waste your time on this subject?'. But when Bitcoin came along I was instantly on board and understood what was on offer- they did not see the beauty and significance of Bitcoin although I tried to explain it. Often what you are most interested in can lead to great success and it is not success that you sought but the interest and knowledge itself.
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Headline reminds me of this legendary greentext
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18 sats \ 3 replies \ @000w2 15h
Propaganda can't tell you what to think, but it can tell you what to think about.
The Economist is banker propaganda. Generational divide is a framing being placed in front of us. Divide and conquer is always the preferred strategy used by those in power to distract us and remain in power.
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Not really, i'm perfectly able to come up with problem descriptions and analyze events without "banker propaganda"
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @000w2 14h
Yet this post is based around the Economist article...
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Maybe go back and check the very second and third paragraph above. Consider that maybe, just maybe, I thought about these things well before any banker propaganda came strutting through my digital doors
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Reading the economist makes one a wreckhead...lol
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If I was young today I would be more worried about the rise of China and the likely transition from a US/West dominant world to a China centric one.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @galt 3h
Gender divide, racial divide, why not generation divide? Just another divide and conquer strategy the machine is well oiled
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