189 sats \ 1 reply \ @02ffb6a74d 25 Oct 2022 freebie
So basically like Briar but with bitcoin integration.
They might be reinventing the wheel here. There are already good solutions out there: Jami has been around for a while and also Manyverse/SSB has not only p2p chat but also a fully fledged social network.
Adding yet another messaging app to the mix will only help in further fracturing the user base.
Are the devs aware of this other prior projects or is this another case of Not-Invented-Here syndrome? Why not collaborate with them instead of duplicating efforts?
The web3 world is also spawning a new decentralized chat platform every month, seemingly ignoring all previous works on the subject.
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30 sats \ 0 replies \ @Tenuki 25 Oct 2022
I think the idea was more for it to serve as a testing ground for Holepunch (while also being a useful tool for bitfinex) more than it being a goal by itself.
There is already a fractured user base (with the exception of a couple large ones) in the messaging app world so that ship has sailed. I think now more competition could be a good thing as we need a substantial improvement over the current dominant players if we want to overcome their network effects.
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40 sats \ 0 replies \ @2big2fail 25 Oct 2022
does dance around a little bit with regards to how "hole punch " protocol works.
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26 sats \ 0 replies \ @nout 25 Oct 2022
A bit too much of marketing talk instead of explaining how it actually works.
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45 sats \ 0 replies \ @shyfire 25 Oct 2022
One of the issues with Keet is that your IP is shared with all peers and possibly more (swarm machines). However I'm not sure whether your IP is linked to your public key and identity. Time will tell...
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryptocoin OP 25 Oct 2022
The link for this post uses a read-only front-end for Twitter, which can be easier to read for viewing a full Twitter thread. The Tweet that kicked off the thread is:
https://twitter.com/pippellia/status/1584559645095612417
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30 sats \ 0 replies \ @godlikeXi 26 Oct 2022
Yeet is better. JK.
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25 sats \ 2 replies \ @DeezSats 26 Oct 2022
Doesn't nostr provide the primitives to implement what keet can do? It doesn't have the marketing but will grow organically. A fractured user base can be seen as a failure for a communication protocol. What we need is something as ubiquitous as phone numbers without the privacy violations. The simpler and smallest amount of designed-in policy will reduce lock-in and user base fracturing, and will win the long game.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @cryptocoin OP 26 Oct 2022
Like P2P video? No, it doesn't.
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25 sats \ 0 replies \ @DeezSats 26 Oct 2022
A large part of the problem is the setup of the p2p interaction. Like matrix sets up jitsi for video calls. I think the main thing is to have an accessible and ubiquitous identity that doesn't require a specific app. Not saying Holepunch is not the answer.
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25 sats \ 0 replies \ @ThrillerX_ 26 Oct 2022
Keet just works but really really well, they did a great job on executing
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25 sats \ 3 replies \ @02d6987ce2 25 Oct 2022
But how does it work? Where is the source code!
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10 sats \ 2 replies \ @cryptocoin OP 26 Oct 2022
Holepunch founder (?), Paolo (of Tether / Bitfinex), has said Holepunch and Keet will be open sourced and the source code will be released in December.
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25 sats \ 1 reply \ @DeezSats 26 Oct 2022
I'm not interested in them until I can look at the source.
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110 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryptocoin OP 26 Oct 2022
Some of the components are already open source, you can begin there if you'ld like.
https://twitter.com/paoloardoino/status/1585215297279385600 [Nitter]
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