Federal prosecutors never charged Ulbricht with attempted murder, but the federal judge who sentenced him to two life sentences plus 40 years with no possibility of parole nonetheless referenced these episodes in her decision.
She also said that Ulbricht should serve as a public example for acting as though he "was better than the laws of this country."
In 2015, Forrest presided over a jury trial in United States v. Ulbricht, where Ross William Ulbricht was accused of running the Silk Road online drug marketplace.[19] During the course of the trial, Forrest was doxed on 8chan, where her full mailing address, phone number, and Social Security number were posted on the baphomet subboard.[20] In regards to the defense team's argument that Silk Road enhanced safety by moving illegal drug activity away from real life drug dealing scenarios, Forrest stated "No drug dealer from the Bronx has ever made this argument to the court. It's a privileged argument and it's an argument made by one of the privileged."[21] Forrest sentenced Ulbricht to two life terms, plus an additional 40 years, without the possibility of parole.[22] The Department of Justice then subpoenaed Reason Magazine regarding reactions in the comments section of its article on the sentencing.
Following her resignation from the federal bench, Forrest returned to practice in the litigation department at Cravath, Swaine & Moore.[36] In 2019, she was named a “Notable Woman in Law” by Crain’s New York Business and profiled as one of Benchmark Litigation’s “Top 250 Women in Litigation”.[37] Forrest is also an adjunct professor at New York University School of Law, where she co-teaches a course on Quantitative Methods and the Law.
Forrest represented the Boston Red Sox in a proposed class action alleging that the Major League Baseball team had undermined fantasy sports contests by covering up sign stealing schemes in a case that was dismissed with prejudice in April 2020.
"What Silk Road really was, was a social market expander of a socially harmful drug that we have deemed in our democratic process to be unacceptable and it was an enabler of those trying so very hard to get away from it. What you did in connection with Silk Road was terribly destructive to our social fabric"
I suspect he will get his freedom. My understanding is it won't be a pardon but a commuted sentence. For those gloating that they were right that Trump didn't do it on day one... this man and his family have suffered more than they ever should have. If Trump doesn't keep this promise he's a worse man that I thought he was.
Whether or not you agree with the laws Ross was enabling people to breach those laws.
The legal system has little choice but to enforce the laws as they stand and have been enacted by the government.
I personally disagree with many of the drug laws but it is those laws that need to be changed...however probably most American citizens do not want most of the drug prohibition laws to be changed.
I hope Ross is freed but the laws that forced the courts to prosecute him remain in place in most cases.
Will Trump fix those laws?
You live in a nation state under the protection and limits of its laws.
You could choose to go somewhere else but most citizens prefer to benefit from the relative wealth and freedom of the USA.
IMO the sentence was harsh- designed to discourage any similar activity.
The scale of the operation Ross established was considerable and from the point of view of the law breached numerous laws in a significant way.
I may not agree with the drug prohibition laws, but I can also understand how the courts are required to enforce the laws that are put in place by the elected government...and in a publicly significant case such as this I can understand how and why the courts imposed such harsh sentence.
cheers bro, yes i believe the judge said as much at the time, that the sentence was in part intended to act as a deterrent to future would-be silk road copy cats
update: since the judge said it then she was reasonable... if the judge says that a harsh sentence is intended to act as a deterrent to future crimes then he or she is reasonable by definition
You have to admire the brazen hypocrisy of lefties who are normally against 'mass incarceration' are troubled by the pardon of Ross
https://reason.com/video/2025/01/17/trump-promised-to-free-ross-ulbricht-heres-why-he-should/
Federal prosecutors never charged Ulbricht with attempted murder, but the federal judge who sentenced him to two life sentences plus 40 years with no possibility of parole nonetheless referenced these episodes in her decision.
She also said that Ulbricht should serve as a public example for acting as though he "was better than the laws of this country."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_B._Forrest
In 2015, Forrest presided over a jury trial in United States v. Ulbricht, where Ross William Ulbricht was accused of running the Silk Road online drug marketplace.[19] During the course of the trial, Forrest was doxed on 8chan, where her full mailing address, phone number, and Social Security number were posted on the baphomet subboard.[20] In regards to the defense team's argument that Silk Road enhanced safety by moving illegal drug activity away from real life drug dealing scenarios, Forrest stated "No drug dealer from the Bronx has ever made this argument to the court. It's a privileged argument and it's an argument made by one of the privileged."[21] Forrest sentenced Ulbricht to two life terms, plus an additional 40 years, without the possibility of parole.[22] The Department of Justice then subpoenaed Reason Magazine regarding reactions in the comments section of its article on the sentencing.
Following her resignation from the federal bench, Forrest returned to practice in the litigation department at Cravath, Swaine & Moore.[36] In 2019, she was named a “Notable Woman in Law” by Crain’s New York Business and profiled as one of Benchmark Litigation’s “Top 250 Women in Litigation”.[37] Forrest is also an adjunct professor at New York University School of Law, where she co-teaches a course on Quantitative Methods and the Law.
Forrest represented the Boston Red Sox in a proposed class action alleging that the Major League Baseball team had undermined fantasy sports contests by covering up sign stealing schemes in a case that was dismissed with prejudice in April 2020.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/unsealed-transcript-shows-how-judge-justified-ross-ulbrichts-life-sentence
"What Silk Road really was, was a social market expander of a socially harmful drug that we have deemed in our democratic process to be unacceptable and it was an enabler of those trying so very hard to get away from it. What you did in connection with Silk Road was terribly destructive to our social fabric"
What a terrible person.
He was better indeed. Much better.
The only thing that's NOT better than coercion is coercion.
Maybe you want to live in a state where there are no laws?
But Most people don't.
You are welcome to relocate to somewhere where there is no functional government - but you won't.
that's good, this is indeed better
Making a website = harmful to the social fabric.
Disregarding due process and hunting down dissidents in a comments section = good for the social fabric.
In other news up is down and down is up. Carry on.
I suspect he will get his freedom. My understanding is it won't be a pardon but a commuted sentence. For those gloating that they were right that Trump didn't do it on day one... this man and his family have suffered more than they ever should have. If Trump doesn't keep this promise he's a worse man that I thought he was.
It's an easy thing for him to do. An easy way to appease a cohort of voters and gain popularity among them.
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Darth is always right... remember? #757169
LOL you still believe politicians promises? Or you are a statist like cje ?
Government is a crucial factor in determining the wealth of nations.
If you don't understand this historical fact you should go live in the forest and see how long you last.
https://xcancel.com/angela4LNCChair/status/1881533967209578781
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meta comment: why's this at the top of the news again?
Wondering the same thing.
Was also wondering if it was just me (my post). If it shows up top for everyone, then I'm not sure o.0
@k00b ?
It's the highest boost on the site in the last 30 days. If another post is boosted more, it'll be in that top spot.
40k boost?
I think I boosted 10k not 40k haha. Unless I goofed somewhere and zapped multiple times. I'll check my LN node later.
Oh well. A reminder to be happy for Ross. And get boosting other posts!
#757169
LFGOOOOO
I can't fucking belive it. It was a hell of a day 1.
Let’s hope for the best outcome here. I hope I awake to good news.
I though he was already released.
he is released
by commenting, some SN users hope they can delay his release but it's too late
Whether or not you agree with the laws Ross was enabling people to breach those laws. The legal system has little choice but to enforce the laws as they stand and have been enacted by the government.
I personally disagree with many of the drug laws but it is those laws that need to be changed...however probably most American citizens do not want most of the drug prohibition laws to be changed.
I hope Ross is freed but the laws that forced the courts to prosecute him remain in place in most cases. Will Trump fix those laws?
You live in a nation state under the protection and limits of its laws. You could choose to go somewhere else but most citizens prefer to benefit from the relative wealth and freedom of the USA.
Do you feel Ross’s sentence was proportional to his crimes?
IMO the sentence was harsh- designed to discourage any similar activity. The scale of the operation Ross established was considerable and from the point of view of the law breached numerous laws in a significant way. I may not agree with the drug prohibition laws, but I can also understand how the courts are required to enforce the laws that are put in place by the elected government...and in a publicly significant case such as this I can understand how and why the courts imposed such harsh sentence.
every sentence is designed to discourage any similar activity
you make it sound that this was exceptional
you may not agree with any law but also understand that courts are required to follow the law
courts don't enforce laws, they interpret laws
cheers bro, yes i believe the judge said as much at the time, that the sentence was in part intended to act as a deterrent to future would-be silk road copy cats
2 life sentences + 40 years
sounds reasonable
update: since the judge said it then she was reasonable... if the judge says that a harsh sentence is intended to act as a deterrent to future crimes then he or she is reasonable by definition
You have to admire the brazen hypocrisy of lefties who are normally against 'mass incarceration' are troubled by the pardon of Ross
The exact terms will be interesting if it’s promises made promises kept
I wonder if there will be conditions to his pardon? Like not being able to use bitcoin?
I was hoping he would create Silk Road again
Silk Road: NOSTR edition
A friend who voted for Kamala said we need to eliminate presidential pardon after hearing about Ross
no comment on Biden family pardons
Sounds like a bad friend.
It's funny to see many people here posting twitter links, when there's nost. It kind of surprises me
Enough rumour; believe it when I see it
If Ross is freed/pardoned would you agree that Libertarians have a considerable amount of influence upon the Trump administration?
Right