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1286 sats \ 21 replies \ @adam_coinos_io 31 Jan \ on: Are SN users using CoinOS and other apps helping or hurting these app devs bitcoin

We're on the same page @kepford -- the more users we get, the more of a target we become but it also forces us to improve and scale. I'm glad to provide a service that makes it easy for people to transact. I'm hoping that with enough time and battle scars it may grow into a stable enough platform that others can fork it and run their own instances with confidence so that not all the responsibility is on my shoulders.

I'm content to continue building it and growing it organically on my own for now. I have enough funds to personally back-stop and insure against losses for the time being but if a lot more people start coming on board and storing too much money in their accounts then I'll need to take some action like putting limits on, making it invite only or charging custody fees.

86 sats \ 2 replies \ @IamSINGLE 31 Jan

Thanks for the efforts. I'm using coinos and I never had issues.

9 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford OP 31 Jan

CoinOS is great. It has many uses beyond NWC and SN. Great service

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 31 Jan

but SN did wrong by pushing its users onto coinos... Coinos is a great platform but not for taking over SN users. As I said multiple times here.

141 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 31 Jan

of course I'm not helping by promoting and evangelizing CoinOS lol

115 sats \ 1 reply \ @adam_coinos_io 31 Jan

Haha no, to be clear I am looking to get more users and grow the platform and I do appreciate everyone who tries it out, finds problems, and gives feedback. I'm not to the point yet of feeling over-burdened or at capacity, I was just saying that there may come a day when that happens.

55 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 31 Jan

I apologize for the spoiled brats and armchair developers in SN community.

Lots of opinions, very little action.

Words are louder than actions, otherwise we wouldn't be using SN

61 sats \ 0 replies \ @DEADBEEF 31 Jan

Thank you for building CoinOS. It is a fantastic service!

58 sats \ 3 replies \ @freetx 31 Jan

Not related to current discussion, but I've used your software in various forms for a long time.

Many years ago (4?) you used to have Liquid support. I had a project using for a time for customer that wanted redeemable tokens like for an arcade. He wanted users to buy in with sats and get X number of tokens and then could play video games with tokens.....

That project is no more, but checking out your latest it seems Liquid support is gone? Or am I just missing it?

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 31 Jan

I tested a liquid transaction using aqua and coinos recently, i.e. 30 days ago or less

Update: January 11

94 sats \ 1 reply \ @adam_coinos_io 31 Jan

We no longer support Liquid assets other than L-BTC but we'd like to add them back in at some point. There are a few other features on the priority last though so I can't give an ETA on it.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 31 Jan

my mistake, I meant L-BTC not tokens

9 sats \ 7 replies \ @Aardvark 31 Jan

What amount would you prefer users to stay below?

61 sats \ 0 replies \ @adam_coinos_io 31 Jan

I don't have any specific number in mind at this point

10 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 31 Jan

Run your fucking node and don't abuse these kind of nice platform with shity zaps.

58 sats \ 0 replies \ @Aardvark 31 Jan

I have alby, but I still have a coinos wallet so I want to make sure to not leave on to much if it's a burden to coinos.

30 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford OP 31 Jan

Darth, question for you. How are we supposed to know what is abuse and what is use. If the usage is abuse but not intended to be abuse then the platform needs to put things in place for actual malicious activity. Right?

If SN using these services brings them to their knees what happens when we have massive adoption?

245 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 31 Jan

what happens when we have massive adoption?

What I always said: if you are an experienced node runner, start building a LN bank for your local community.

Like CoinOS. Do you know their history, how did they start? As an uncle Jim for local shops in Vancouver.

But people nowadays I see that are just fucking waiting for things to happen, they do nothing, not even study properly how to use Bitcoin for themselves.... They only care how to assmilk SN btw...

And this is because people nowadays do not want to be responsible for anything, but always want to blame others to be responsible for them and for their own mistakes. Like this idiot...

Prepare from now, learn, test, create solutions, slowly, small steps and then grow (but not too much). Provide for your closed people only.

THIS is the real decentralization: small LN banks everywhere that cannot be stopped or cannot attract easily attackers because the bounty is too small or unknown so the effort is not worth it.

19 sats \ 0 replies \ @Aardvark 31 Jan

There's a lot of information to digest. Slow and steady is really good advice, at least it has been for me.

9 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford OP 31 Jan

Right on Darth. This is what we that can run nodes and lightning nodes should do.

9 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford OP 31 Jan

Thanks Adam. CoinOS is great. It has many uses beyond NWC and SN. Its a great service.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @NovaRift 31 Jan

I'll reduce 0.0001% burden from my end by adding another wallet on my Stacker account. your wallet is really good and easy to use. excellent service. Thanks.