I'm of the belief that it's astrology for doomers, but I know some bitcoiners believe in it. What's your thoughts?
Yes, any second now..36.4%
No, it's astrology for doomers. 63.6%
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE 26 Feb
It's not scientific so it can happen anytime. We can only guess. We only can know when it has already happened. So be prepared.
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80 sats \ 15 replies \ @SimpleStacker 25 Feb
What if we're literally in the midst of it?
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59 sats \ 14 replies \ @Aardvark OP 25 Feb
Considering that we're decades beyond when it was first predicted, I'd say that it's nonsense.
On a long enough timeline something bad is going to happen, but to me, the 4th turning window was closed a long time ago.
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63 sats \ 9 replies \ @SimpleStacker 25 Feb
I think I'd qualify COVID and the reaction to it as perhaps qualifying for a 4th turning level event... especially since I think it was a lack of virtue and strength that made people so accepting of the policy responses from the government
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110 sats \ 8 replies \ @Aardvark OP 25 Feb
If that's the case, it was a pretty weak 4th turning.
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52 sats \ 7 replies \ @SimpleStacker 25 Feb
It may seem that way, but as an educator I think online education absolutely wrecked a generation of kids... and it was worst for the most vulnerable, who didn't have access to quiet spaces and fast internet connections and parents who could help fill the gaps in learning.
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70 sats \ 6 replies \ @Aardvark OP 25 Feb
When compared to a civil war or world War, i don't consider covid to be that big of a deal.
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42 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 25 Feb
Why do you say that? We're talking about roughly 80 year cycles and that may be increasing as people have started having kids later and retiring later.
1st cycle: Revolutionary War - Civil War (about 80 years)
2nd cycle: Civil War - WWII (about 80 years)
3rd cycle: WWII - Present? (it's been about 80 years)
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31 sats \ 2 replies \ @Aardvark OP 25 Feb
I'm pretty sure the first books predicted it would have already happened, and it was amended in the second book.
Who knows though, right?
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 25 Feb
I've often had difficulty nailing down the different phases with any precision, but it feels like we're going through heightened chaos now and that seems to me to be predicted by the past periods of major chaos.
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26 sats \ 0 replies \ @Aardvark OP 25 Feb
If I turn out to be wrong, it certainly wouldn't be the first time.
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42 sats \ 3 replies \ @DesertDave 26 Feb
doom and brand new
it's all the same
sometimes we fall
to make room for change
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Aardvark OP 26 Feb
Wtf?!? I haven't seen you in a while!
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @DesertDave 26 Feb
Yeah. Not a fan of CC and the leaderboard so I kind of left. Not sure why I came back today.
Maybe I'll stay
In a new kind of way.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Aardvark OP 26 Feb
CC isn't actually thst big of a deal, it turns out that they just sort of turn back into sats.
I think the leader board is going away at some point too.
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42 sats \ 2 replies \ @denlillaapan 25 Feb
Is there no middle way??
Maybe yes, but not yet...?
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19 sats \ 1 reply \ @Aardvark OP 25 Feb
That seems like a reasonable answer, but ultimately wrong because I didn't think to put it on the poll.
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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @denlillaapan 26 Feb
I'm such a rebel
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42 sats \ 7 replies \ @Coinsreporter 25 Feb
We aren't yet there but we're near.
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20 sats \ 6 replies \ @Aardvark OP 25 Feb
Perpetually near it sounds like.
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21 sats \ 5 replies \ @Coinsreporter 25 Feb
Can be or not, I'm just not sure about the perpetual, but within the next 100 years for sure.
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20 sats \ 4 replies \ @Aardvark OP 25 Feb
That would mean that it doesn't exist. 100 years from now an entire additional 4th turning should have happened.
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21 sats \ 3 replies \ @Coinsreporter 25 Feb
Yes, it doesn't exist imo. But it'll be in existence within next 100 years.
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20 sats \ 2 replies \ @Aardvark OP 25 Feb
If it doesn't happen way before 100 years, it disproves it even exists. Its supposed to be every generation, and should have started by now.
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42 sats \ 3 replies \ @grayruby 25 Feb
One could argue we are in a fourth turning.
It's a good book. I think the idea of generational cycles has some merit. I wouldn't take it too seriously though.
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40 sats \ 2 replies \ @Aardvark OP 25 Feb
If we are, it's a boring turning.
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 25 Feb
We have managed to avoid world war but in the past 20 years have had the GFC and Covid pandemic. We have seen great technological change and are going through a period where trust in institutions is crumbling. Maybe it is tame compared to other fourth turnings but I don't think I has been boring.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Aardvark OP 25 Feb
I'm not sure that it would qualify as one for me.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @MANI 26 Feb
I don't believe in it to be really honest.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @byzantine 26 Feb
it is only real in hindsight. it wasn't real in turnings 1, 2,or 3 until they looked at it when writing the book.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @userbob6 26 Feb freebie
The turnings are happening continuously all the time in various places. Somewhere in the city, strong men are making good times, and elsewhere weak men are making bad times. Meanwhile, somewhere in the world, good times are making weak men, and elsewhere hard times are making strong men. There is no global turning, only local.
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @orto 26 Feb
What is this 4th?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 26 Feb
Woke quasi mystical nonsense.
But the US is in terminal decline and China is rising.
Trumps concessions to war criminal Putin and threats to place 100% tariffs on any nations who follow Iran, N.Korea and Russia in adopting Chinas alternative trade payments regime show how desperate the declining USA has become.
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