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so, ek pulled a stunt. The nuclear option.

To mess with my little bearish bet and to redeem his own reputation, he hurdled another boatload of sats into the Yes contract — and bribed stackers to post and comment! Man, oh man, it's been an interesting few weeks.


I started to get cocky with this bet, seeing (every two weeks) how that graph for SN items went further and further away from the bet target line (#914289). ...and alas, hubris was punished by the universe.

Bet was going my way, SN activity is gradually dying, there are/were no more people flocking to this wonderful and incestuous circle jerk of a forum... so instead of building a great(er) product, @ek threw plenty of good sats after bad ones... only to thwart little me, and teach me a lesson.

It was an ingenuous plot: Bribe the Stackers to post as much nonsense as possible. And posting nonsense, we did... 9,404 comments in nine days (#948515), for a neat little boost to the SN daily rate of about 1,000 a day... incidentally, that's roughly the ballpark difference between the pre-stunt daily SN activity and what we need for the end of the year.

I gotta confess: when ek's stunt first took off, I was terrified. The rate at which the comment number shot up was SCARY AF, given that I'm massively on the "wrong" side of this bet.

The nonsense was so nonsensy that both I and the worthy 3rd-place-finisher @NovaRift (#965733) got a really bad taste in our mouths... ugh, what have we been part of!

Surveying the damage of the nuclear blast, I noticed that it didn't really move the needle very much.Surveying the damage of the nuclear blast, I noticed that it didn't really move the needle very much.

I don't think ek realizes how desperately off SN is compared to this bet. In fact, the SN deficit, compared to the 1.4m bet, is sooo yuuuuge that you literally gotta repeat one of these Most Comments Wins post every other week for the rest of the year. That's gonna cost yah...

Somehow I don't think the Stackers will be here for it... and it'd be turning SN into the very low-quality shitposting hellhole ek is working for it not to be. Irony is proooo-fooooound

ek had to bribe us assmilkers almost 60k sats, and all he got for it was north of 9,000 comments. Implied rate: 6.33 sats per comment (@AGORA, set up the market, and ek can just bail out my ~14,000 sats of exposure whenever he feels like it, rather than having me spam "fuck" two-thousand times during more of these bribery fests).

I was wrong to, initially, suggest that it wouldn't even show up for the report. It did:

You see the tiny lil alligator gap switching directions?You see the tiny lil alligator gap switching directions?

yep, that's where we're at... that's what you bought for 60k, ek. ("It's not about the money, but about sending a message!")

Our daily rate for the month was 1,236 items, well above anything we've seen in recent months, but much lower than you'd expect after a stunt like this. Time is working against yah. For the year as a whole we're at 1,133 items a day, while we need 1,550. We're 33% through the year, but only 24% toward the goal. Since we're so far behind, we need 1,764 items a day for the rest of the year. (a similar ek stunt boost every other week).

I'll believe it when I see it.

So no, @grayruby, I ain't selling my Predyx shares (@mega_dreamer UNHAPPY!); I will just calmly call bullshit on this entertaining lil adventure.

Steady, lads, deploying more capital.


previous Predyx bet update posts: #944412, #900000, #914289, #930665

53 sats \ 2 replies \ @OT 30 Apr

I think it probably needs some organic growth to hit that target.

Maybe old stackers can engage more by just making more comments.

IDK, I don't have any sats on this bet. I'd just like to see SN grow.

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Maybe old stackers can engage more by just making more comments.

Deal

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38 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 1 May

Shake

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SN is going parabolic

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No kidding. This jerk isn't even looking at the second derivative. He's gonna get rekt!

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undoubtedly. The (new) front page of the internet

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Somehow, Mr. Undisciplined, in his wheeling and dealing has acquired himself a worse position than me?? You used to have more shares for less sats. What am I missing?

@Undisciplined @mega_dreamer

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The “unseen” here is the profit I already pocketed.

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ok, so there's some method to the madness here I'm not grasping yet.

I need a webinar in "How to Trade Predyx Like a Pro"

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Yes, @Undisciplined has been trading and taking profits.

We'll have to request undisciplined to do a seminar on: "How to Trade Predyx Like a Pro"

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OK, so I see. Tell me if I'm doing this wrong -- arbitrage trade:

These two bets are the same, yes. By arbitrage, whatever the actual chances of Barcelona winning La Liga are, it's better to own a contract where the Yes costs 87 than 88.

So when I trade away the one I owned for 880 sats and pay 866 sats on the other trade, I arbitrage-pocketed 14 sats holding the same risk/exposure as before, correct?

(I feel like an idiot having to spell out these obvious-sounding things, but... this is what y'alls do here all day?!)

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Yep, there are lots of opportunities like that.

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...or not...

MY GOD, did I get snubbed on this arbitrage.

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That guy flew in making some wild purchases. You still made a winning trade.

Yes, you're learning now.

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There was a huge price swing a couple of weeks ago that sent the 1.4M odds way below the 1.5M. So, I sold most of my 1.4M No and some 1.5M Yes, until the odds made some sense.

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To both of the parties here: "If you're so sure, why don't you make it a one sided affair on Predyx?" Please please please just make the odds 90/10 so we degens can rekt you all. https://beta.predyx.com/market/stacker-news-hit-14m-items-in-2025 Aaaandd....bonus...

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Nice, obvs

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125 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 30 Apr

I am not selling.

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I just tipped the odds to below 10%. Some extra incentive for the yes voters to make it happen. I want it to happen. I want SN to grow.

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Hahahaaaa

...and of course Mr. @Undisciplined is here to ruin all the fun /slash/ take all the gainz for himself. Fucker.

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Right place. Right time.

I was checking in on all the first 100 days markets and saw that one at 6%. It's unlikely, but it's not that unlikely.

Probably too rash, though. I should have kept half and sold some "Yes" from the 1.5M market.

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probs... a few minutes later and I would have beat yah to it (at least for some shares)...I'm still impressed by your betting acumen. ASPIRATIONAL!

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Considering the time spent on it, the return probably isn't great. It is fun though.

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Ah, didn't realize I had a few yes shares from a while ago.

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Well, you could still sell them, since I absorbed a lot of your "No" purchase.

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Would be nice for the platform to improve the UX. It's a pain to check at how much I bought a set of shares I'd like to sell.

I feel like some kind of arbitrage opportunity was missed, seeing how the 1.4M odds dipped below the 1.5M odds for a second there, but I'm too lazy to figure out the proper betting strategy

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That's what I ultimately did. Now, the odds are just slightly higher for 1.4M than 1.5M.

It's especially tricky because the liquidity in the two markets is very different, so buying 1k shares in one moves the odds much more than 1k shares in the other.

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Yeah unfortunately predyx isn't big enough yet that you can really take a position on something but I hope it gets there eventually

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Even if the liquidity were there, it's in beta and they limit how much can be purchased at once to avoid being attacked.

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19 sats \ 0 replies \ @AGORA 30 Apr

The fact that created a tiny lil alligator gap is actually good sign, the fact that a post with 9.4k comments is not affecting much the overall SN activity, it would be scary if it did...

Honestly, I'd focus on content quality... not quantity! As we all know, more quantity in the market decrease value, whatever the good might be!

~AGORA marketplace is always open, throw there anything

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134 sats \ 18 replies \ @ek 30 Apr

I even had to pay 25k sats twice because I got scammed lol (#966336)

This means I paid out 83.5k sats in total 👀

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Short summary of what really happened

CC: @Roll

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roil? When you see it clearly, it's fake. Fake Roll has one short "l," so it's uppercase "I"?

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ooo 1 May

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Always speak in memes

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Memelish

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ooo 1 May

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This is not good. The scammer should definitely be one of the old Stackers who knows how to play with words for creating a similar looking nym. Also, I was dimb not to ask why did I see the @RoIl's (scammer's) comment on your post when I've the @Roll (original) muted?

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Hahah that'd be a give-away, wouldn't it

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ooo 1 May

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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @ooo 1 May

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I can read you, unmuted you yesterday. I just forgot to unmute.

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Hahahah wth??? That's so rude

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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 30 Apr

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What about when you lose your bet? There's what, some 50k says in there too?!

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 30 Apr

I won't lose the bet 👀

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6️⃣9️⃣ trades so far, wen 4️⃣2️⃣0️⃣?

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SUPER UNHAPPY 😍 This market is really fun!!

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Super fun but they aren't dropping some big sats there. I would love to see a war there...it though seems, we're in the middle of a tiff here!!🤣

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I think it because this market has tiny liquidity of 4k sats. I will have to increase it for people to be dropping big sats. Will add liquidity today/tonight.

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Great 😃 That's so nice of you. I think you're right. Whenever I try making a big bet on this market, I see quite a big change in the odds. Now as the interest for this market is rising, some more liquidity will surely attract other Stackers too.

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wiil do.

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Wooohoo

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Meme for you too!

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Who's around to pay you out?!

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Liquidity on this market has been increased. Now it's 30k sats. You can bet more, the odds will move less. Pls let me know if you guys need more liquidity.

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Great new! I'll go put some sats right now.

Done and it really didn't move like before. Thanks.

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This dude has got no chill... Moar!

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122 sats \ 1 reply \ @NovaRift 30 Apr

Good one i guess?

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Hahahah my god!

Did you see me say "iz dead" in the post today???

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