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7 sats \ 10 comments \ @telcobert 11 May AGORA

Two questions:

(Excluding Bitcoin just for Treasury purposes).

Can you name any B2B businesses in the Real Economy which transact in Bitcoin?
Can you name any normie B2B businesses where at least the CEO or the CFO are bitcoiners?

Super curious about B2B Bitcoin adoption! Heritage Distilling and Powerlink Electrical are killing it with BTC payments.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @telcobert OP 11 May

Thanks. That helps already.

Note: Heritage seems to be mostly for treasury (excluded). And B2C payments, not yet B2B. https://cointelegraph.com/news/craft-distilling-bitcoin-us-distillery-adopts-btc-treasury-payments

Any link for PL Electrical which shows their Bitcoin involvement?

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 12 May

Yes I know.

The grocery shop I onboarded few years ago, is paying also 2-3 suppliers in BTC, one is the local farmer that produce fruits and vegetables.
The small farmer in the area also is paying for gas to the local gas station in BTC.
One small rental company that for years start accepting BTC for some rental tourists apartments is also paying some cleaning employees in BTC.

I cannot say the names because they do not want publicity, it's a small community that do not want to be in the news and I respect their privacy. But things works, quietly, for people that knows. They simply use BTC as savings and as money.

It's all about convincing the right people.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG0RA 18 May

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG 12 May

Some previous SN related posts: #844602 #452530 #573086

Around here, businesses accepting bitcoin are listed by @OPAGO_PAY, are they payig their suppliers in sats?

Also @BenJustman is selling wine for sats, not sure if he does B2B or if he pays suppliers in sats (AMA here #925123)

It's maybe worth to look at current B2C businesses and try to identify if their suppliers are in the B2B circle. It would not be so explicit.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @AG 12 May

@globalmerchant maybe can tell us something more. I assume if the business operates under the bitcoin standard, CEO and CFO must be bitcoiners... there's no other way!

Another important factor I noticed, is that if they do, they usually tend to keep it in the private and only other business they deal with know about this detail. Definitely not using it as marketing campaign, that by the way look's is a strategy the many B2C nowadays are adopting to attract plebs and have them spend their precious sats.

Furthermore, I found out most of them still operating in both universes, fiat and bitcoin, in parallel, separate bookkeeping.

How is that you are diving into this topic? Do you have any extra info? What's already in your list?

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @telcobert OP 12 May

@globalmerchant sounds just right. Privacy is understood, given the hostility of the political class and of incumbent fiat monopolists.

Compiling a list now, but may have to keep it pseudonymous.

This is searching for potential B2B beta testers for Bitcredit Protocol, a FOSS digital bill of exchange protocol s/w which aims to enable business adoption.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @AG 12 May

Would be interesting to know at least the industries they operate in.

It's a credit protocol really needed in bitcoin? I feel it as reflection of the fiat mindset that want to be introduced into the bitcoin landscapes.

The creation of credit and debt is where all this fiat mess started, and many live by in slavery because it today. If people isn't able to pay-now to get what they want... they should just provide value and be rewarded for it. Then pay for what they want.

And mostly in B2B, the rule you pay—you get it apply, so we don't need to trust no one.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @telcobert OP 17 May

It is the government monopolisation and central banks where the mess started. Credit is fine as long as it remains decentralised. It is also indispensable for businesses (division of labour) in a modern, multi-order economy.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG 18 May

Too easy to blame someone else. I'm not sure government and central banks are not aliens or evil, they are managed by us, humans. I still behave that if there was no debt, or credit, people would have no need for a third party to manage disputes, making them useless and obsolete.

If there's something useful I learn in life is to be debt free. There are also plenty of quotes that gently suggest having the same approach. .

Rather go to bed without dinner than to rise in debt. —Benjamin Franklin

A man in debt is so far a slave. —Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of." —Henry Wheeler Shaw

"Many delight more in giving of presents than in paying their debts." —Sir Philip Sydney

"Don't let your mouth write no check that your tail can't cash." —Bo Diddley

"Good times are when people make debts to pay in bad times." —Robert Quinlin

"Some debts are fun when you are acquiring them, but none are fun when you set about retiring them." —Ogden Nash

Home life ceases to be free and beautiful as soon as it is founded on borrowing and debt. —Henrik Ibsen

"Debts are like children - begot with pleasure, but brought forth with pain." —Moliere

"This would be a much better world if more married couples were as deeply in love as they are in debt." —Earl Wilson

What can be added to the happiness of a man who is in health, out of debt, and has a clear conscience? —Adam Smith

Find me quote that promote debt or credit.

Business that operate in a bitcoin standard does not operate with debt, or at least that's my wish. Debt is part of the fiat mindset, created to control and enslave those that had not spent time in learning and crafting, those that need to be told what to do.

You can also see it from a spiritual perspective... you'd really want to accumulate negative karma?