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73 sats \ 23 replies \ @siggy47 13h \ parent \ on: I believe CoinOS will resolve itself, but this screenshot is a rug pull 💨 lightning

In my experience lightning addresses in general do not work well as an attached SN wallet

36 sats \ 13 replies \ @028559d218 12h

I mean... they do though? Lightning addresses have always worked for me...

0 sats \ 10 replies \ @siggy47 12h

Perhaps I should have emphasized it is my experience. I do recall @k00b saying there was an issue with using some LN addresses as an attached wallet too, but that was a while ago. Maybe things have improved.

106 sats \ 9 replies \ @k00b 12h

Unless you're using ecash with Zeus, Zeus lightning addresses still require you to open the app to accept a zap.

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @kepford 12h

Exactly. This is not a great UX IMO. Its fine, but not what I wanna do. I'd rather run my own server or use eCash.

41 sats \ 4 replies \ @028559d218 12h

Short of running a server... either it's custodial or an LSP (although Zeus 'is' a full node where you can open your own channels).

What will 'the masses' use in the future?

5 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 12h

Async payments ... but that's not coming soon.

Phoenix does a background payment with bolt12 on android by sending a notification which wakes up the app to release the secret. This notification method is the best near-term solution for phone "nodes" afaik and is not possible on iOS (way more strict about what notifications can do).

Lots of people assume ecash is the answer otherwise, which depends on very many anon custodians custodying people's pocket change either out of goodwill or to earn money on tx fees.

Breez is experimenting with using Liquid for this afaict. Although roy has also written about async payments and this notification method before.

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5 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 12h

The masses? I suspect banks. Hopefully something like eCash but who knows. We are a long way from mass adoption using bitcoin as a medium of exchange. It will happen. Hopefully it becomes easier as we go.

But the masses do not care about privacy or sovereignty. I do and as long as I can do that I'm happy. I'm not gonna make people care about it. I have tried for decades. The best way though is to show the way. To do more than talk.

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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 12h

FWIW, I've been using eCash for a while. Switching back to my own node. I like to try stuff for a while regardless of what Darth says ;)

The funny thing is the reason I really went to eCash was because I could not get NWC to work on my node. Today it just worked... I have no idea what I was doing wrong or if it was an issue with Alby Hub or SN. I think it was with my node because I couldn't get Nostr apps to work with NWC either.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @028559d218 12h

I haven't even tried NWC. Why? Because honestly I feel like nostr isn't worth it yet. Maybe the hackers/coders see all the cool stuff they can do with it, maybe it's a great social app for people... right now for me the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

Having a node on a phone (zeus) plus a full node I use is enough already just watching the mempool

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 12h

They do work but he was using Zeus which has hodl invoices which aren't super reliable in my experience.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @028559d218 12h

May I ask... do you find that the payments just don't go through?

36 sats \ 8 replies \ @kepford 13h

That's interesting. Its all I've used for receiving. Do you use NWC for receiving?

61 sats \ 4 replies \ @siggy47 13h

Yes. I had trouble with Zeus early on, and I think another one too. NWC has been best for me. I used LNC with lightning terminal for a while too, but that wasn't as reliable.

41 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford 12h

Zeus uses hodl invoices to avoid having to have a server online all the time. They are flakey in my experience as well. Coinos and Minibits work pretty well but they are custodial and have had issues from time to time with SN's throughput.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @028559d218 12h

Do you think they aren't paying out? Or you just can't redeem them (the invoices?) I was getting Brains payouts to a LNaddress, plus stacker news and aside from having to 'claim' once every 24 hours it worked OK. I wish i had 48 hours and the zeus app was quicker to load (although keeping it 'on' in the background may help too)

5 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 12h

Failed payments was the issue I saw but I quit using it. I don't think Zeus is the best option for lighting addresses. Better if there is an always on server to handle payments.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @028559d218 12h

Interesting. I know Ocean payouts switched to Bolt 12 for exactly this reason... so there wouldn't be a 'server' or middleman in between. Personally I don't have an issue with a 'middleman' but there is a time and a place.

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36 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 13h

LOL, in the early days I tested NWC and specifically Alby Hub on my node. It was failing. Now it works. Not sure what changed but it does work for both paying and receiving now.