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152 sats \ 1 reply \ @Murch OP 5 Nov \ parent \ on: [bitcoindev] Motion to Activate BIP 3 bitcoin
We have been getting a lot of submissions that are almost entirely LLM generated. We consider such BIPs low-quality and a waste of time. I don’t have an issue with people using LLMs to improve their language or grammar, when they come up with the content: the concept, motivation, rationale, design, and specification must come from the authors.
First of all, he's not actually my cousin. He's the child of my cousin's son. English does not have a word for this and I don't know if any other language has such a word, so I'm going to call him my cousin.
In German we would call that a “nephew of second degree”. I believe the genealogy jargon in English is “first cousin once removed down”.
I don’t understand why it would be “good to set the mempool to at least 2 GB”. Could you explain what you are trying to achieve with that?
When someone sends you dust outputs, you can simply choose not to spend those outputs specifically, especially if they cost more than they are worth.
The recent blocks were including fewer transactions below 1 s/vB, because enough transactions were bidding more than 1 s/vB:
Chart: last 24h, inverted feerate (highest feerate at the bottom), only txs offering 1 s/vB or more.
Bitcoin Core 29.1 already makes up over 13% of the listening nodes according to Clark Moody’s dashboard:
As Laurent has recently demonstrated with his simulation, below 90% filters, almost all corresponding transactions reliably reach non-filtering listening nodes (which I suspect miners to be). So, at this point any listening nodes that want the low feerate transactions should be receiving them reliably before they appear in blocks.
Yes, good summary.
The
minRelayTxFee and incrementalRelayTxFee both express a minimum cost for relaying data across the network. It would be a bit odd to charge more for the first announcement of a transaction, but then make it cheaper to replace the transaction, or vice versa to make it cheap to make a first announcement and expensive to replace a transaction. So both mempool policies were lowered from 1 s/vB to 0.1 s/vB in Bitcoin Core 29.1 and the upcoming v30.0.Bitcoin Core limits the amount of memory dedicated to the mempool data structure to 300 MiB by default. When this memory limit is reached, your node will start evicting transactions with the lowest descendant feerate (a heuristic for what’s going to be mined last), and then increase its minimum feerate to the feerate of the last evicted transaction + 1×
incrementalRelayTxFee.
If “too many transactions get submitted”, there still will only be one block full of transactions added to the blockchain every block. More competition for blockspace means that the minimum feerate in the block is pushed up. Higher feerates means that the subjective value of transactions must be higher for the senders to bid sufficient fees for the transaction to get into the block.
That’s bad news for transactions whose subjective value is low. I’ll leave it up to you to categorize whether that would apply to LN transactions or not.Accepting transactions below 1 s/vB means that it cheaper transactions can be used to fill up the mempool. It makes the price discovery for blockspace more finegrained, but doesn’t fundamentally change the mechanism to reach the equilibrium. If there is low blockspace demand, there might be a few more transactions added to the blockchain that otherwise would not have occurred. It also makes consolidation of a lot of the UTXOs created in the past two years much more financially viable.
I don’t recall claiming that getting rid of data embedding would require a hardfork.
I do however think that effectively combating data embedding would require significant cuts to Bitcoin’s scripting capabilities.
Your first sentence is:
A merkle tree IS A ZK PROOF.
Later you write:
…but they totally do prove a statement without revealing all the knowledge.
A zero-knowledge proof reveals no information except that the statement is true. This is not a property that merkle trees have. Many proofs don’t reveal all the knowledge. E.g., ECDSA signatures don’t reveal the private key, and yet they prove that you are in possession of it.
So no, merkle trees are not ZK proofs, and it’s just false to claim that they are.
RBF only works if you have some way to estimate to begin with.
Depends on what you mean with “works”. Bumping blindly to higher feerates if you didn’t get confirmed in a block does work fine, if you are not trying to pay the minimal amount or make it into the next block.
Got a CA DL that’s not a Real ID in April. I also use my passport card for flying, it’s not an issue.
Thanks. Librehans’s argument is a strawman. He says op_return is not better than inscriptions, so it has no upside. But op_return is slightly cheaper than storing data in payment outputs, and much less harmful. This improvement over data being stored in payment outputs is the central reason for the op_return increase.
The linked tweet by Mononaut describes a scheme that is akin to brc-20 and plans to store data in one or several payment outputs when the op_return limit is exceeded.
If you are curious about running command line commands, you could check out the Bitcoin Core RPC documentation. It should mostly match Knots behavior:
v29.0 still had the old default, the recent point release v29.1 dropped the minimum relay transaction feerate to 0.1 s/vB.
According to Clark Moody’s dashboard, about 6.6% of listening nodes are now running Bitcoin Core 29.1.
No, the configuration option has been available for a very long time, and there had been some users already that generally accepted transactions even with zero fees. The big change was that suddenly miners started confirming transactions below 1 s/vB, which lead to the default value for
minRelayTxFee to be changed in Bitcoin Core 29.1 and Bitcoin Core 30.0.The average transaction fees per block were about 0.03 BTC in the past week, or about 0.9% of the total block reward.