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My favorite atm: "Spend to say. Earn to stay." (We've been dumping a bunch of these in chat this afternoon.)
102 sats \ 8 replies \ @deSign_r 5h
people usually will not come if they know they need to pay to post, because the crowd will compare with what else is available and always pt for the cheaper or more convenient option. Why one shuld pay to post here and reach a niche when can do the same on X or r/ and reach the masses?
I'd probably keep all the payments and rewards working in the background... hide it. Let people post freebies but don't let them know it is as such and has less visibility. They will get it at some stage.
Same for the rewards, give it away to those that deserve it, but don't make it a public thing or a hook for predators to join the competition... it's more about collaboration.
Last, just visualize and present what today is named sats as zaps, karma or points... they are no sats anymore, and people get confused by the sybil fees anyway.
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102 sats \ 7 replies \ @028559d218 4h
This is what everyone said to ProtonMail when they said 'hey we're going to charge for premium email'...
'ya noone will pay for that it's already free.'
15 years later ProtonMail has 80 million users.
In other words people will pay where they find quality.
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I'm coming around to this view.
I used to be pretty adamant that there should always be free paths and that "pay to post" was not the most attractive aspect of SN, but my experiences on Reddit and X have left me feeling that a sizable group of people may be willing to pay some small amount to escape the constant bot, spam, ai slop fest without aggressive moderation.
The problem with freebie posts that are limited in visibility is that it's a horrible first experience. You sign up, you put some hard work into writing a post and it just dies and feels like nobody cares. Is the number of people who bounce because of that experience greater or less than the number of people who would bounce because they are told they have to pay to post?
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102 sats \ 3 replies \ @deSign_r 1h
Cowboys will have freebies enabled and will be their job to zap and uplift good freebie content. maybe is not working like that yet
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I have wild west mode enabled. the only freebie content that shows up in my feed are bios. Freebie comments never show up for me.
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102 sats \ 1 reply \ @deSign_r 57m
Maybe has to do with disable freebies?
Yes correct, that's the option that allow stackers to see freebies
0 sats \ 1 reply \ @deSign_r 4h
They did not have it so explicit in their slogan
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I mean... it's not rocket science.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Aardvark 8h
I like it actually
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102 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 12h
If we think it's better to not make it a tongue twister, we could do:
"Pay to post. Earn to stay."
Comparatively, it's boring, but it is explicit, brutally plain, and proposes a challenge.
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It's funny how I actually have to think about what "earn to stay" means.
Pay to post is straightforward enough, i grasp it as I read. But "earn to stay" requires a double-take. This could be a good thing (as you pointed out elsewhere).
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I do not like that
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64 sats \ 10 replies \ @k00b 12h
why for
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Good question. It was a visceral response. Something about it hurt my brain.
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How about "Come to earn. Stay to learn."
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Following on k00b's point that it should be weird and frustrating:
Burn to learn. Yearn to earn.
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One big beautiful Message Board, perhaps the best the World has ever seen
Should those be switched?
Maybe not. That is the order that worked on me.
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It could perhaps work with the order switched, but I think the "stay" part is usually meant to be more aspirational than the "come" part
42 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 12h
Copywriting benefits from being weird like that. You might only remember a slogan for the pain it caused.
This slogan I have to read 10's of times to get comfortable with it. Every read digs its barbs deeper in my memory. Strangely, it makes perfect sense in terms of semantics and couldn't be shorter - it's just kind of a tongue twister.
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Good point. Enjoying it is less important than remembering it.
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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 12h
e.g. Trumps typos and misphrasings and factual inaccuracies are painful, but I never re-read a Joe Biden tweet 10 times to figure it out. I only vaguely recall Joe Biden having a presence on twitter as a result.
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This one is really good.
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