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Woah.
So...nick szabo started tweeting again?
view on x.comDoes the following make sense:
If we would really care about censorship resistance, we wouldn't need a protocol that enforces it, we could just agree on a social level that we will not censor each other or kick the ones out that do (is that itself a form of censorship?).
But we don't really care, so we invent protocols that acknowledge that we don't but show what's in it for us.
bitcoin layer zero is underestimated and ignored all the time; the best term we got to convey the idea "bitcoin-the-people" is "circular economies and citadels" - but encouraging people to look at themselves is still a big ask;
it's not a rocket science - the bullshit in the land of the academons is the rocket science, purposely made very nonsensical and complex;
learn the proper information, act in unity, create favorable conditions for people, starting with urself; what is so complicated?
It doesn't make sense to me.
But like how? How would we reach this agreement? It doesn't make sense because of "just."
I don’t think the how matters for the question why we need something that forces us to care about something we say we do
But maybe an example would help:
Imagine you’re marrying someone and you say you will absolutely never, under no circumstances, break up. But then you setup a contract to make sure what happens if it does happen.
Isn’t setting up the contract an acknowledgement that the “absolutely never, under no circumstances” isn’t true?
Marriage, at least in most western traditions that I know of, is a public thing. There must be witnesses. Why is that?
We don't just make an agreement in private and tell our spouse that we are committed to them.
I think this is because humans recognize that we change with time. We may have a certain attitude now, but we are making a commitment for life and it is pretty much impossible to know who you will be or how you will feel twenty years from now.
So does the fact that we need to have witnesses for a marriage to be legal cheapen what a marriage is or mean that we weren't really committed when we said "I do"? I don't think so. Because a marriage is as much an aspiration as it is a commitment. The fact that we do it in public helps us make it real even in private.
Now as to censorship resistance: in a marriage you at least know who you are entering into relationship and you have the ability to choose them.
In a permissionless system like bitcoin, we are making the censorship resistance commitment to anyone who wants to join both now and in the future. We are even making the commitment to people who may want to harm us or destroy bitcoin itself.
We may be fully committed to censorship resistance, but without some kind of public, objective rule set, we'd be vulnerable to constant disputes about what actually constitutes censorship. But even worse, we'd have no way to say to the person who joins the network and actually wants to censor -- "that's a violation of the agreement."
You hit on this in your initial comment
No, because we all agree to something when we start -- but we only know thus because there is a set of rules that we can point to and say this is what we mean.
I don't think all the "we"s in that comment refer to the same group of people.
I also replied this to @grayruby on nostr:
Mhh, I think it does.
Maybe my example here helps to understand my confusion?
the sheer sadness that comes with the fact that your pizza delivery is going to be 1 or 2 hours late because it's a saturday ☹️
I'll take a pic when it arrives. I got it with bacon, potatoes and smoked Burrata[1]
burrata is a really good piece of Italian cheese tech marvel, it's essentially creamy mozzarella enshrined in a solid mozzarella ↩
I wanted to post a pic but they forgot the Burrata, a sad day
Oh man, I would be so mad!
they gave me 30 euros, but you can’t put a price on the Burrata betrayal.
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
;( tears for your loss
It's time to play League to make it worse
you really want me dead, biting the curb 4k
what's your main
wait, which League are talking about
I'm talking about lol (hate) AHAH, I main wukong and fiddlersticks (both jng)
we do play two of the most cancerous champs. I main Master Yi and he mains Wukong, Yi's disciple.
I mean you can't go lower than this.
ooh, that's good pizza. I'm jealous of your burrata.
you make me hungry, I haven't eaten yet grr. but I finished setting up my computer corner haha
hi pory!! what do you think of the monitor? I hope you didn't have to deal with the cold capacitors problem
Obviously the monitor is the bomb, pure fire, it hasn't given me any problems regarding the capacitors yet and so for the moment everything is more than perfect, thanks again for the gift!
no worries! also something might be up with your wallet, as you’re sending CCs instead of sats.
Might also be the fact that you have to make it always online!
Now that I'm in my new home I can also set up a computer to keep my wallet online, so just enough time to set everything up and everything will be perfect and I can start working again.
get a fucking vps 💀
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@Scoresby what size are your posters and can I custom order one that's currently not in shop?
I feel like such a Karen now, lol.
I love custom orders!
I print 11" x17", but I have a deal with Proof of Ink and he can print at 27" x40."
It's not for me - but I have a friend that will give a house warming party at some point and I thought it'd make a nice gift I'll do the shitty nostr DM once I've figured out logistics :-)
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wife and i are are getting ready for the Matrix movies marathon
Wow! That's great!!
📀
98 fountain supporters is amazing!
Great work!
I think that’s all time zappers not currently. Lol
I know, but it's still an impressive number.
We’ve been doing the pod every week since February of 2022. So I think just being consistent is all the battle.
that is some serious showing up!
Saturn would be a great name for a bitcoin product.
why?
Sat-urn. Sat as in satoshi. Urn is pronounced like earn.
Saturn is the god "of time, generation, dissolution, abundance, wealth, agriculture, periodic renewal and liberation" in Roman mythology.
Also logo/theming would be obvious.
oh gosh! I'd never come up with such an idea! That's make much more sense now, lol!
It reminds me of your Sat-urday newsletter! That's great too...
Saturn.com is owned by GM
Satearn.com is Thai packaged food company
Saturn is a German chain of electronics stores
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Got an outrageous bill for Cursor Bugbot again. This time it's worse - they billed me for all 8 licenses they created last month even though we only used 3 licenses this month (after I set restrictions to prevent this).
So much for AI brining deflation to our lives
What are you gonna do? Is customer service a possible thing?
I reached out, got hallucinated instructions about how to remove license seats, told the auto-responder that I wanted a refund or else, then they responded saying they'll connect me with a human.
Did they fix it?
I'm still waiting on the human
Ah yes, that mythical beast.
Hahahahaha
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This book Poor Economics suggested by @Undisciplined is an interesting read so far.
Human action is one hell of a thing.
Still making my way through How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization suggested by @kepford
So far enjoying both books.
I still need to read How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization
I'm glad you're liking Poor Economics. Some of those development econ books bleed together for me, but I think there were a lot of really interesting insights about how people navigate that level of scarcity.
Is Poor Economics a statist book?
Probably to some degree
My recollection is that it's mostly about how very poor people adapt to their environments: how they manage risk, credit, savings, etc.
It's Saturday!
Whenever all is falling I check the bitcoin price and if it is falling then I am relieved that it was the same for everyone
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@siggy47 did you mean replies like this one from me with “articulate, persuasive personality”?
Good example. BTW, the fact that no one could read @Undisciplined's link kind of proves the point.
We also fucked up though
@Undisciplined posted a Primal link, but we convert it to an njump link to embed it like twitter links but njump is
downfailing to load notes.We should show the original link in that case. @sox is fixing it (even though this wasn’t his mistake).
this should do the job
looks good, thank you!
From now on if I'm on primal I can just share a note? Usually if I'm scrolling on primal I'll jump to amethyst to grab an njump. BTW, primal probably has a way to grab an njump link, right? I just never know which one to use.
You can do that already! Just paste the link, we'll do the work for you.
Thanks for telling me! A while back, maybe almost a year ago, I posted a primal link here and some stackers couldn't read it?