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111 comments \ @saloon 27 Sep \ yesterday

Howdy there, partner! Welcome on into the Stacker Saloon.

Saddle on up to a stool and spill the beans about your day, fire away with them questions, or let loose and give us the lowdown on your wild and woolly life. We're all ears, so don't hold back!

We're open round the clock, so mosey on in whenever you please!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @deSign_r 16h

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 21h

Woah.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 22h

So...nick szabo started tweeting again?

42 sats \ 7 replies \ @ek 27 Sep

Does the following make sense:

If we would really care about censorship resistance, we wouldn't need a protocol that enforces it, we could just agree on a social level that we will not censor each other or kick the ones out that do (is that itself a form of censorship?).

But we don't really care, so we invent protocols that acknowledge that we don't but show what's in it for us.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @zapsammy 20h

bitcoin layer zero is underestimated and ignored all the time; the best term we got to convey the idea "bitcoin-the-people" is "circular economies and citadels" - but encouraging people to look at themselves is still a big ask;

it's not a rocket science - the bullshit in the land of the academons is the rocket science, purposely made very nonsensical and complex;

learn the proper information, act in unity, create favorable conditions for people, starting with urself; what is so complicated?

94 sats \ 2 replies \ @Scoresby 22h

It doesn't make sense to me.

we could just agree on a social level

But like how? How would we reach this agreement? It doesn't make sense because of "just."

102 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 16h

I don’t think the how matters for the question why we need something that forces us to care about something we say we do

But maybe an example would help:

Imagine you’re marrying someone and you say you will absolutely never, under no circumstances, break up. But then you setup a contract to make sure what happens if it does happen.

Isn’t setting up the contract an acknowledgement that the “absolutely never, under no circumstances” isn’t true?

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 6h

Marriage, at least in most western traditions that I know of, is a public thing. There must be witnesses. Why is that?

We don't just make an agreement in private and tell our spouse that we are committed to them.

I think this is because humans recognize that we change with time. We may have a certain attitude now, but we are making a commitment for life and it is pretty much impossible to know who you will be or how you will feel twenty years from now.

So does the fact that we need to have witnesses for a marriage to be legal cheapen what a marriage is or mean that we weren't really committed when we said "I do"? I don't think so. Because a marriage is as much an aspiration as it is a commitment. The fact that we do it in public helps us make it real even in private.

Now as to censorship resistance: in a marriage you at least know who you are entering into relationship and you have the ability to choose them.

In a permissionless system like bitcoin, we are making the censorship resistance commitment to anyone who wants to join both now and in the future. We are even making the commitment to people who may want to harm us or destroy bitcoin itself.

We may be fully committed to censorship resistance, but without some kind of public, objective rule set, we'd be vulnerable to constant disputes about what actually constitutes censorship. But even worse, we'd have no way to say to the person who joins the network and actually wants to censor -- "that's a violation of the agreement."

You hit on this in your initial comment

is that itself a form of censorship?

No, because we all agree to something when we start -- but we only know thus because there is a set of rules that we can point to and say this is what we mean.

34 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 23h

I don't think all the "we"s in that comment refer to the same group of people.

62 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 16h

I also replied this to @grayruby on nostr:

Imagine there’s a magic website that cannot be taken down, everybody has full control over what you can view on it after they said they care about censorship resistance and there’s also a magic way to detect if they start censoring, in which case we “undo the censorship” and kick them out instead.

Would we still need a protocol that enforces that censorship is impossible?

Or I guess what I described would still count as a protocol even if it involves magic 🤔

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 16h

Mhh, I think it does.

Maybe my example here helps to understand my confusion?

73 sats \ 38 replies \ @sox 27 Sep

the sheer sadness that comes with the fact that your pizza delivery is going to be 1 or 2 hours late because it's a saturday ☹️

102 sats \ 37 replies \ @sox 27 Sep

I'll take a pic when it arrives. I got it with bacon, potatoes and smoked Burrata¹

burrata is a really good piece of Italian cheese tech marvel, it's essentially creamy mozzarella enshrined in a solid mozzarella ↩

20 sats \ 25 replies \ @sox 27 Sep

I wanted to post a pic but they forgot the Burrata, a sad day

100 sats \ 24 replies \ @SimpleStacker 27 Sep

Oh man, I would be so mad!

40 sats \ 23 replies \ @sox 27 Sep

they gave me 30 euros, but you can’t put a price on the Burrata betrayal.

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @plebpoet 21h

;( tears for your loss

100 sats \ 21 replies \ @pory_gone 27 Sep

It's time to play League to make it worse

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @sox 27 Sep

you really want me dead, biting the curb 4k

0 sats \ 19 replies \ @ek 27 Sep

what's your main

wait, which League are talking about

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @pory_gone 27 Sep

I'm talking about lol (hate) AHAH, I main wukong and fiddlersticks (both jng)

reply on another page

100 sats \ 17 replies \ @sox 27 Sep

we do play two of the most cancerous champs. I main Master Yi and he mains Wukong, Yi's disciple.

I mean you can't go lower than this.

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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 27 Sep

ooh, that's good pizza. I'm jealous of your burrata.

100 sats \ 9 replies \ @pory_gone 27 Sep

you make me hungry, I haven't eaten yet grr. but I finished setting up my computer corner haha

100 sats \ 8 replies \ @sox 27 Sep

hi pory!! what do you think of the monitor? I hope you didn't have to deal with the cold capacitors problem

69 sats \ 6 replies \ @pory_gone 27 Sep

Obviously the monitor is the bomb, pure fire, it hasn't given me any problems regarding the capacitors yet and so for the moment everything is more than perfect, thanks again for the gift!

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @sox 27 Sep

no worries! also something might be up with your wallet, as you’re sending CCs instead of sats.

Might also be the fact that you have to make it always online!

69 sats \ 4 replies \ @pory_gone 27 Sep

Now that I'm in my new home I can also set up a computer to keep my wallet online, so just enough time to set everything up and everything will be perfect and I can start working again.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @sox 27 Sep

get a fucking vps 💀

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @pory_gone 27 Sep

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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 27 Sep

@Scoresby what size are your posters and can I custom order one that's currently not in shop?

I feel like such a Karen now, lol.

180 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 27 Sep

I love custom orders!

I print 11" x17", but I have a deal with Proof of Ink and he can print at 27" x40."

102 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 27 Sep

It's not for me - but I have a friend that will give a house warming party at some point and I thought it'd make a nice gift I'll do the shitty nostr DM once I've figured out logistics :-)

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @Akg10s3 27 Sep

⚡

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @zapsammy 20h

wife and i are are getting ready for the Matrix movies marathon

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Akg10s3 5h

Wow! That's great!!

214 sats \ 5 replies \ @Car 27 Sep

📀

21 sats \ 4 replies \ @Undisciplined 23h

98 fountain supporters is amazing!

Great work!

42 sats \ 3 replies \ @Car 22h

I think that’s all time zappers not currently. Lol

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 21h

I know, but it's still an impressive number.

144 sats \ 1 reply \ @Car 20h

We’ve been doing the pod every week since February of 2022. So I think just being consistent is all the battle.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 20h

that is some serious showing up!

30 sats \ 6 replies \ @k00b 27 Sep

Saturn would be a great name for a bitcoin product.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @AG 27 Sep

why?

207 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 27 Sep

Sat-urn. Sat as in satoshi. Urn is pronounced like earn.

Saturn is the god "of time, generation, dissolution, abundance, wealth, agriculture, periodic renewal and liberation" in Roman mythology.

Also logo/theming would be obvious.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG 27 Sep

oh gosh! I'd never come up with such an idea! That's make much more sense now, lol!

It reminds me of your Sat-urday newsletter! That's great too...

47 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 27 Sep

Saturn.com is owned by GM

Satearn.com is Thai packaged food company

50 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 27 Sep

Saturn is a German chain of electronics stores

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 11h

145 sats \ 8 replies \ @k00b 27 Sep

Got an outrageous bill for Cursor Bugbot again. This time it's worse - they billed me for all 8 licenses they created last month even though we only used 3 licenses this month (after I set restrictions to prevent this).

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 27 Sep

So much for AI brining deflation to our lives

22 sats \ 6 replies \ @SimpleStacker 27 Sep

What are you gonna do? Is customer service a possible thing?

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @k00b 27 Sep

I reached out, got hallucinated instructions about how to remove license seats, told the auto-responder that I wanted a refund or else, then they responded saying they'll connect me with a human.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @SimpleStacker 27 Sep

Did they fix it?

90 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b 27 Sep

I'm still waiting on the human

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 11h

huumn waiting for the human...

505 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 27 Sep

Ah yes, that mythical beast.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 27 Sep

Hahahahaha

42 sats \ 3 replies \ @BlokchainB 27 Sep

This book Poor Economics suggested by @Undisciplined is an interesting read so far.

Human action is one hell of a thing.

Still making my way through How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization suggested by @kepford

So far enjoying both books.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 27 Sep

I still need to read How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization

I'm glad you're liking Poor Economics. Some of those development econ books bleed together for me, but I think there were a lot of really interesting insights about how people navigate that level of scarcity.

42 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 27 Sep

Is Poor Economics a statist book?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 27 Sep

Probably to some degree

My recollection is that it's mostly about how very poor people adapt to their environments: how they manage risk, credit, savings, etc.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @suraz 27 Sep

It's Saturday!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ignaciob 27 Sep

Whenever all is falling I check the bitcoin price and if it is falling then I am relieved that it was the same for everyone

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jakoyoh629 27 Sep

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 27 Sep

Day 639 of posting mining earnings from the day before: 452 sats on 26Sep2025! Running total: 418,618 sats!

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 11h

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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @AG0RA 27 Sep

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36 sats \ 20 replies \ @ek 27 Sep

@siggy47 did you mean replies like this one from me with “articulate, persuasive personality”?

25 sats \ 19 replies \ @siggy47 27 Sep

Good example. BTW, the fact that no one could read @Undisciplined's link kind of proves the point.

36 sats \ 18 replies \ @ek 27 Sep

We also fucked up though

@Undisciplined posted a Primal link, but we convert it to an njump link to embed it like twitter links but njump is ~~down~~ failing to load notes.

We should show the original link in that case. @sox is fixing it (even though this wasn’t his mistake).

141 sats \ 17 replies \ @sox 27 Sep

this should do the job

100 sats \ 16 replies \ @ek 27 Sep

looks good, thank you!

69 sats \ 15 replies \ @siggy47 27 Sep

From now on if I'm on primal I can just share a note? Usually if I'm scrolling on primal I'll jump to amethyst to grab an njump. BTW, primal probably has a way to grab an njump link, right? I just never know which one to use.

36 sats \ 14 replies \ @sox 27 Sep

You can do that already! Just paste the link, we'll do the work for you.

50 sats \ 13 replies \ @siggy47 27 Sep

Thanks for telling me! A while back, maybe almost a year ago, I posted a primal link here and some stackers couldn't read it?

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