10 sats \ 40 replies \ @mallardshead 7 Mar 2023
It's a terrible whataboutism argument by Bukele that dictators like making. It's propaganda. And how do we know proven criminals are the only ones in El Salvador prisons when they're deprived of due-process? This dude has violated every civil liberty in the book, and sandwiched them between two hot steamin' buns of civil rights violations. Bitcoin doesn't need Bukele, but based on the behavior of many bitcoiners willing to sell out freedom so NgU, he seems quite important.
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1 sat \ 1 reply \ @Eximpius 7 Mar 2023
You can't have freedom with a gang running your country through fear and corruption, you fucking idiot. Especially a small country.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @mallardshead 7 Mar 2023
So you're willing to deprive people of due-process? And you're pro Patriot-Act? And you have no care for civil liberties? But the gangs bro! I don't want to hear about terrorism, gangs, or Russians as an excuse to violate people's rights; that's quite antithetical to bitcoin. And considering the deals El Salvador has made with China in exchange for their debt, how the free-trade agreement is going down under the One-China guise, and the lack of transparency around who holds the keys/custody for El Salvador's Treasury bitcoin, I'm surprised nobody has said anything. That's because all that matters is NgU. Not a goddamn thing else.
What Bukele has done is great in snapshot. But guess what? There's an x-axis too: time. And if his economy doesn't improve rapidly, he'll face political revenge, and organized cultural division. Then he has to keep doing the same thing to political dissidents. This is always how these things start if you study enough history. Then suddenly a Juan Guiado type puppet shows up on White House grounds shaking hands with the U.S. President.
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1 sat \ 15 replies \ @Eximpius 7 Mar 2023
Bet you have pronouns in your bio on other media sites.
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0 sats \ 14 replies \ @mallardshead 7 Mar 2023
Who gives a shit. People are free to put whatever they want in their bio.
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0 sats \ 13 replies \ @Eximpius 8 Mar 2023
So you do i see. LMAO
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0 sats \ 12 replies \ @mallardshead 8 Mar 2023
Not sure why this is relevant. I have no interest in censorship or telling people what to put in their profile.
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0 sats \ 11 replies \ @Eximpius 8 Mar 2023
Then don't tell people you don't know how to run their own country, who like 90% of the citizens voted for... You know, that word you all on the left like to scream only when it benefits you. Democracy.
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10 sats \ 10 replies \ @mallardshead 8 Mar 2023
I've never seen a bitcoiner so excited about coercion and the authority of the state. Truth is you'd justify any rights violation or atrocity for NgU, which in this case is odd because El Salvador won't provide that.
And I'm not sure why you keep using left-right political party talk either. I find people that vote for either to be lower IQ types.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Eximpius 8 Mar 2023
Why don't you invite them to come live with you then.. Petition El Salvador for some of the prisoners to be refugees to come live with you.. Come on man, be that humanitarian you claim to be, against the evil salvadorans who voted for him to stop those people... Come on... Walk the walk buddy.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Eximpius 8 Mar 2023
Dude, you are not near as smart as you think you are. lmao
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Eximpius 8 Mar 2023
So people voting for him to do this... after he said he would.... is now authoritarian LMAO LMAO LMAO
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Eximpius 8 Mar 2023
LOL geez you really are dumb
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0 sats \ 21 replies \ @Eximpius 7 Mar 2023
Dude, they're MS-fucking 13. Whatever dude. LMAO fucking loser. I bet you are a lying democrat
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1 sat \ 20 replies \ @mallardshead 7 Mar 2023
Dude, they're fucking people, regardless of what twitter posts, podcasts, and other NgU desperation has said to the contrary. You don't get justice with injustice. What you've proffered are not arguments, they're talking points.
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102 sats \ 19 replies \ @Chep OP 8 Mar 2023
I agree with this "You don't get justice with injustice" I don't live in El Salvador but this a great thread about people there who are okay with this because they have lost so many to gang violence https://twitter.com/alexstanczyk/status/1629323046401241088?s=20 now that said I think due process is important and people should be innocent until proven guilty. My point with this post is in the USA the people who are in jail for 1/6 haven't had due process either. Now I have no opinion about wether or not 1/6 was a violent insurrection or some psy-op put on by the feds. My guess: probably somewhere in the middle. My point: not having due process in both the US and El Salvador is kinda fucked up and Bukele makes a good point here because at least from what I saw in that one thread which is not much more than anecdotal evidence is that the people of El Salvador appreciate these gang members being locked up.
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1 sat \ 9 replies \ @Eximpius 8 Mar 2023
100 sats for you. Good to see a critical thinker.
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0 sats \ 8 replies \ @tenderscore 8 Mar 2023
u either believe in due-process or u don't. if ur gonna justify it here, then justify it everywhere. tryna have it two ways is dishonest. mallardshead is right. just say depriving people of rights is fine in this case for whatever good reasons and push on
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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @Eximpius 8 Mar 2023
So you don't believe in Democracy?
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100 sats \ 5 replies \ @tenderscore 8 Mar 2023
due-process is actually a cornerstone of democratic governance no?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Eximpius 8 Mar 2023
Thanks for telling everyone your low IQ
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0 sats \ 8 replies \ @mallardshead 8 Mar 2023
Yes, and my original reply above was pointing out that Bukele's tweet is nothing more than a rhetorical tactic, which is in this case a logical fallacy admitting he's doing the same thing as the U.S. has, which—as you pointed out—is problematic. Bukele is a high risk/reward dude, and his crackdown and bitcoin experiment can all change if the economy doesn't change, and the political leadership does.
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0 sats \ 7 replies \ @Eximpius 8 Mar 2023
Thank you for proving my point you are not as smart as you think you are. You should step back into the real world and away from the theoretical shit you come up with in your head with no real world experience. Have you ever lived in a country thats being controlled by a gang and have to worry if tomorrow your family will be killed, or pay those gangs just to survive?? Didn't think so, so shut the fuck up..
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @mallardshead 8 Mar 2023
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Eximpius 8 Mar 2023
Cause you know.. You sure can pursue life, liberty, and freedom when a gang is holding you hostage.
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Eximpius 8 Mar 2023
What liberty did they give up?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @mallardshead 8 Mar 2023
Another low-rez reply. They're getting more desperate, now trying to appeal to emotions. There's no argument being made here, just an appeal to the plight of Salvadorians who you don't care about anymore than they serve the purpose of establishing a faux moral high-ground, which you comically fail at because you forgot first-principles of liberty.
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