The shady world of Brave selling copyrighted data for AI training \ stacker news ~tech

The shady world of Brave selling copyrighted data for AI training

5925 sats \ 36 comments \ @jinformatique 19 Sep 2023 tech

After reading this, will you continue using Brave Browser?

Brave has lost credibility many times. Let us count the ways. Never made their browser fully open source so it can be packaged for free software Linux distros. Lied about Bing results and data sharing with Microsoft. Got caught leaking client fingerprints on certain sites that they shared data with, to make users identifiable, even in Incognito and Tor modes. Got caught fudging their BAT token opt in to rip off creators and enrich Brave corp instead. Caught censoring and manipulating search results, under the influence of Microsoft. Now using client browser data to train some potentially dangerous AI. Do not use Brave. They have finally lost all their credibility. https://stackdiary.com/brave-selling-copyrighted-data-for-ai-training/

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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @shurikencutter 20 Sep 2023

Are you kidding me? After all the promises and the hype, this is what Brave has come to? Data collection, telemetry, and whatnot? It's infuriating to see such potential squandered. We were promised a browser that respects privacy, not one that sneaks around in the shadows!

And to add insult to injury, they have the audacity to cloak their actions under the guise of "features" and "improvements." It's like watching Anakin Skywalker succumb to the Dark Side all over again. We didn't sign up for this. We wanted a Jedi Knight, not Darth Vader.

To Brave, I say: "This is not the browser we were looking for." We deserve better, and we won't be fooled by the dark arts of data collection. The Force is strong with the users, and we will find a way to resist.

31 sats \ 6 replies \ @birdeye21 19 Sep 2023

Where is the bitcoin only browser? 😩

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @davidw 19 Sep 2023

We will skip them and go straight to Nostr browsers. It’s inevitable.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @2bithits 19 Sep 2023

There are NOSTR browsers?

101 sats \ 0 replies \ @davidw 20 Sep 2023

https://spring.site/

The first of many

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 19 Sep 2023

It never meant to be. They just used the word bitcoin to fool users.

22 sats \ 0 replies \ @orthwyrm 19 Sep 2023

https://www.impervious.ai/

Not sure if anyone uses it, though.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 20 Sep 2023

Impervious 👀

29 sats \ 4 replies \ @billiam 19 Sep 2023

FF with multi-containers, so all cookies/session are sandboxed for sites where you are logged in. Mullvad Browser with no extension for everything else.

That's it. Period.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @NightCity 19 Sep 2023

I love the multi container plugin on FF. Lets me keep stuff seperate and in one window.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Zepasta 19 Sep 2023

Is there any way to open a container whenever i enter specific site instead of having to create a container first and then typing the site?

3 sats \ 1 reply \ @billiam 19 Sep 2023

Left to the "bookmark Star" icon in the address bar, click on the containers symbol "Always open this site in ...". I have many containers per category, and each container has no more than 4 sites at once ...

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Zepasta 19 Sep 2023

Doesn't seem to work on LibreWolf, i click on that container symbol and nothing happens.

41 sats \ 1 reply \ @Zepasta 19 Sep 2023

If you are a Bitcoiner and you use Brave browser who has a shitcoin built-in, then you are a fake.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @aoeu 20 Sep 2023

Exact reason I stopped using Brave. It is a tweaked version of Firefox, Safari, Tor Browser for me now.

1192 sats \ 1 reply \ @NightCity 19 Sep 2023 freebie

I quit using brave after they screwed up my bats and I couldn't withdrawl to an external wallet. So I have since quit joing the "bat" program.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @newnym 19 Sep 2023

Yeah, the BAT rewards is totally a scam. If you cannot use an external wallet your BAT earnings get eaten by exchange fees. I gave up on them for the same reason. I was still using the browser because of the effectiveness of their ad blocking system. With what I see on this thread its bye-bye brave.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @satoshi_in_the_classroom 19 Sep 2023

Totally inexcusable

120 sats \ 0 replies \ @Zepasta 19 Sep 2023

I recommend LibreWolf.

31 sats \ 0 replies \ @ionisle 19 Sep 2023

Take a look at the Mullvad Browser. The tagline is tor browser hardening but with a vpn instead of Tor. They don't lock you into their vpn, and you can use it without one too. It is also open source Tor has also benefitted from the project

10 sats \ 3 replies \ @Natalia 19 Sep 2023

How about Firefox or Mullvad? I like to use different browsers for different things.

Tor is great, but it's too slow for daily things.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @jinformatique OP 19 Sep 2023

We should compare LibreWolf vs Mullvad browser because both are based on Firefox

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Natalia 19 Sep 2023

first time I heard LibreWolf:) and checking...

I just found this #190879

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jinformatique OP 19 Sep 2023

yes, I was precisely looking for this website: https://privacytests.org

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ruS7Y 20 Sep 2023

That BAT token always shouted out loud

"We're shady people, we might do shady things"

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @RoundaboutStacker 19 Sep 2023

hmm, interesting attack on Brave. I wonder that the other browsers are not mentioned, and their bad practices. I am sure they are much holier and worthy of our juicy web data.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jinformatique OP 19 Sep 2023

Sure, I would love to have sources as juicy as this one for other browsers. You are welcome to publish them here.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 19 Sep 2023

I really don't the the utility of BAT if you can't withdraw to an external wallet or there is no use other than holding it. LibreWolf is the way to go.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Hypnagog 19 Sep 2023

I asked a friend in tech and the machine ai learning is true for brave, but its also true for all other ai platforms. The data is anonymous and is melted with millions of other datasets to train the ai. Brave isn't spying on users to keep data on you in a shady place, its training its ai model.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Tjacten 19 Sep 2023

There must of been a reason why they even call it Brave. Is this the why I'm getting snail ads everytime I'm researching them?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Hypnagog 19 Sep 2023

Damn it man, I use brave exclusively . now I need to spend hours looking for an alternative .......

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Tjacten 19 Sep 2023

Let's hunt!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 19 Sep 2023

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @oraltosun 19 Sep 2023

Do you have any suggestions? What about CryptoTab browser?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @sb 19 Sep 2023

What browser do you recommend? Is Brave worse than Chrome? Or lesser of the two evils?

361 sats \ 0 replies \ @jinformatique OP 19 Sep 2023

Neither of both. Lesser one would be Chromium. Back in the days before Chrome existed, I liked Opera because the features they provided where more advanced than any other browser. In the 2015 era, I noticed Opera developers quit and started a new browser Vivaldi. From this moment I switched to Vivaldi because the devs continue to improve and add new features. Personally, I like that passowrds are encrypted using zero knowledge to sync securely with mobile. I use tab stacks, workspaces, adblocking at the core. It's fast and private and you can install any extensions from the chrome ecosystem.