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Created this LN enabled website, feedback will be appreciated

22.4k sats \ 32 comments \ @NoCodeBitcoin 17 Oct 2023 bitcoin freebie

Hey bitcoiners, this is my first Bitcoin ⚡ enabled project, so I would love some feedback from the community:

And the concept is simple: You post a question directed to a specific person, pledge some sats to your favorite charity and if that person answers, those sats are release to the charity. Other people can boost questions by adding additional pledges to it. All via LN ⚡

Would love comments around:

Does it make sense?
Do you see any super relevant bugs?
Is the UI/UX clear?

PS: I have never written a single line of code (this was made with nocode tools), so please have mercy on me if you find it buggy. It is definitely still in Beta.

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1242 sats \ 1 reply \ @NoCodeBitcoin OP 18 Oct 2023

😮 Amazing to see so many people comment and share ideas. I see that some of you are "impressed" this can be done with no-code tools. So I thought of this:

If there is enough interest, I would be happy to create some tutorials / live sessions to teach anyone (and learn together).

Cheers!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 18 Oct 2023

Yes +1

300 sats \ 2 replies \ @TwoLargePizzas 18 Oct 2023

I'm very excited to see more people building on LN for sure. I'm even more impressed that LN is integrated into no-code tools (I didn't know that)

But I think you're going to struggle to get the right people answering the questions. I highly doubt Michael Saylor or Elizabeth Warren are going to answer those questions (although I wish they did).

It's a bit of a two sided marketplace problem but it's even worse because you're trying to match particular people with particular questions. Probably not gonna happen unless this got some serious attention from the podcasters or something.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 18 Oct 2023

Thought about the same. The only incentive they might have to answer such questions and I can see may be social pressure since they are essentially locking funds for charities by not answering.

I have mixed feelings about this approach.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @NoCodeBitcoin OP 18 Oct 2023

Yes, I understand. But that is what I wish, that by being able to unlock funds by just answering a question, they engage.

Thank you both for the feedback, I share your thoughts also.

200 sats \ 1 reply \ @jeff 18 Oct 2023

Does it make sense?

The site, as a concept, is great. Novel, and I think it could be viral.
"Top ignorers" -> while cheeky, and I get it, it made me pause and go "wtf?". Maybe, consider flattering the targets. "Most Asked", or "Most Prompted".
"Most Popular Charities" -> Flag the demo ones as (demo), like you did with ignorers.

Do you see any super relevant bugs?

No, but haven't used it much yet.

Is the UI/UX clear?

Yes.

Consider the following other features:

Tagging questions. #economics #transparency #democrat #USA - Maybe people who pledge a certain amount of sats can set them, or even better would be to weight the tags by the amount pledged. So, 500 sats for #USA, but 10000 sats for #transperency, helps you sort/rank things.
"Answer as public" -> No point in this. Might as well just set it to "Add Comment", and then let people vote the comments up and down for signal.
"Loaded Question" -> If a question being asked, is actually a loaded question, it's really more antagonistic and less helpful, but does have virality implications. IMHO, your site will end up filled with these, and these will be a blocker to your success...but I could be wrong. "Hey Elizabeth Warren, can you share % source of your income in 2023?" is really quite different from (and I'm exaggerating to prove the point) "Hey Elizabeth Warren, how much of your income in 2023 came from licking boots, sucking ass and taking bribes?"

If this catches on a bit, and you want help scaling beyond no-code, let me know...but you're doing great with the no-code options.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @NoCodeBitcoin OP 18 Oct 2023

Thanks so much for all this feedback.

Yup, top ignorers is weird. (english is also not my native lang, so I sometimes mess up. I like your idea.
Tagging questions is on the roadmap, just wanted to put out an MVP to see if there is actually some interested so for me to keep working on this.
Interesting point around "Answer as public", makes some sense. I added it because if you can't do that, the site is "hard to engage", and low engagement kills a social app. But simplifying to "comments" makes sense.
I am not sure I understood the "Loaded question" point, but I guess you are saying is that many people will use offensive language. They will if this catches on, but I will need to be "moderating" that if I want the site to be useful. I also understand the dangers of the word "moderating", social is now an impossible thing to manage.

Thank you.

450 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 18 Oct 2023

Interesting idea but authentication might be non trivial. Seems like you rely on everyone who should answer a question to have a twitter account?

You could add support for nostr by asking for npubs. Then only the person who can sign a challenge with the corresponding nsec is allowed to answer.

110 sats \ 1 reply \ @aoeu 18 Oct 2023

Definitely think adding support for Nostr is crucial.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @NoCodeBitcoin OP 18 Oct 2023

Yes, Nostr is considered, although:

There are no ways to integrate Nostr to no-code tools (I don't know how to code)
There isn't yet wide adoption of Nostr by "VIPs".

But I get the point. Thanks!

110 sats \ 1 reply \ @dtonon 18 Oct 2023

Absolutely love the idea! Yes, add Nostr please.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @NoCodeBitcoin OP 18 Oct 2023

Amazing to see so many people ask for Nostr integration. As I said before, there are no tools to integrate Nostr to No-code platforms, so my hands are tide, but maybe someone wants to create a plugin?

Thanks for commenting!

110 sats \ 1 reply \ @TheBTCManual 18 Oct 2023

For someone that hasn't written code, you build a pretty slick-looking website man, Its a novel idea, never thought of something like this I am interested to see people respond to it and if gets traction.

Would actually be such a cool micro-service that nostr clients could add to their front ends too

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @NoCodeBitcoin OP 18 Oct 2023

Wow, thank you. No-code tools are SUPER powerful now, people just don't know.

Can you elaborate on your Nostr Idea? (as I stated in previous comments, would love to integrate Nostr, I just don't have any tools to do it without code)

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @anon 18 Oct 2023

I liked it. I wish some of those people start answering so you can get some traction. Maybe we can help here by pinging some of them..

Gluck!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @NoCodeBitcoin OP 19 Oct 2023

Thanks! Yup.. I hope one of them starts the wheel.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @anon 18 Oct 2023

Pretty cool that this was made with no-code tools. We need more bitcoin "devs" and this might be a way.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @NoCodeBitcoin OP 18 Oct 2023

Hope I made my point clear. Thinking that "we have already won" is not helping (although we will win)

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @anon 18 Oct 2023

Love that this was made without writing code.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @NoCodeBitcoin OP 18 Oct 2023

I think you posted twice, so I am copy pasting the reply:

So one of the interesting thing is that "web3" has so many no-code plugins and integrations, while Bitcoin and LN have less than 3. I think there is an urgent need for more nocode tools and plugins to enable Bitcoin creators. Hope I made my point clear. Thinking that "we have already won" is not helping (although we will win)

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @Louferlou 18 Oct 2023

Really interesting idea, well done dude.

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @Louferlou 18 Oct 2023

Just wondering how is the donation to charity executed, do we have to trust you or do you provide some kind of proof of donation ?

110 sats \ 1 reply \ @NoCodeBitcoin OP 18 Oct 2023

Yes, super important point. That is why I added a FAQ page. For now this is a "custodial" or "non-trustless" app, since it is the easier way to launch an MVP. If it gets traction, my hope is to "verify" charities one by one and onboard them to Bitcoin LN via this app, so they have their own wallet and somehow I can work with a kind of "escrow".

For now I will post on twitter all the transaction receipts. But if people have better ideas, I am super open to hearing.

Thanks!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Louferlou 19 Oct 2023

And if it gets traction do you plan to deduct some fees or is it a charitable only side project ?

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @jeff 18 Oct 2023

Found a bug.

I can lock the "Enter the Question" Screen by doing the following:

Searching a name that doesn't exist. Eg. "ABCDEFG LMNOP"
Pressing tab to enter a handle "abcdefg"
Deleting the name I typed
Deleting the handle I typed

...if I do that, then search for "Elon Musk", the twitter handle box stays red. And doesn't populate the same way it would have had I tried at the beginning.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @NoCodeBitcoin OP 18 Oct 2023

Ha.. yes, that bug is killing me, but I haven't been able to totally fix it, since I somehow try to avoid people adding "Elon Musk" and setting a "el0nMusk" handle.

Thanks for sharing. I will still try to fix it.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @Signal312 18 Oct 2023

I'm impressed that you did this nocode tools, would like to hear more details about that! In terms of this site making sense - are the people being pinged ones that would actually answer? Seems unlikely. Also I'm so disillusioned with 99% of charities that the charity approach doesn't appeal to me.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @NoCodeBitcoin OP 18 Oct 2023

Hey, thanks!

I see many people "impressed" by how this can be done with nocode. If there is enough interest, I am willing to create / give some tutorials on this. My main goal is to onboard more people to Bitcoin and if I can also increase the amount of creators on Bitcoin, I would be super happy.

About the pinging and answers. Yes, the idea is that you chose "VIP's" of just interesting people to ask the question, so this way if more people pledge more sats, they have some kind of pressure to "just answer because there is locked money for charities".

About 99% of charities, I feel you, for now this is my best idea, but soon maybe we can add geyser.fund projects.

Cheers!

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @036e999b2c 18 Oct 2023 freebie

Can you share some more around how you "created" the site without coding?