A friend drove me to lunch yesterday. He was listening to CNBC on his satellite radio. I heard a segment called Mid Day Report, or something like that. The program discussed "hot stocks." They talked about "crypto" briefly. There were two traders interviewed, both of whom said they planned to buy bitcoin.
They both prefaced their comments by saying stuff like:
"I don't believe in it long term." "It has no business use." "Fifteen years and it's gotten nowhere." "I'm just buying until the etf's are approved. The true believers are going crazy." "It's just a momentum play." "It's just a supply and demand play."
There's an old saying on Wall Street. "Buy the rumor, sell the news." I feel like many bitcoiners see these lurking etfs as the Holy Grail. Don't be caught off guard by crazy price swings. It's my opinion that we still have a long road ahead of us, and that adoption from the ground up is a hell of a lot more important than a bunch of rent seeking finance guys creating NGU fervor.
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This is how I imagine those douchebags
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I fully expect the etf approval might be a sell the news event but over time they will bring more capital to Bitcoin. Unlike the futures which are cash settled and can be perpetually rolled these products will need to buy spot and just like we saw a surge when the grayscale trust launched and they had to buy a ton of bitcoin creating a supply shortage, I think we will see a similar effect with the etfs.
I would prefer everyone just bought spot and self custodied and we all need to keep educating people on that but we are never going to convince everyone and it takes time. I finally convinced my former business partner to get a hardware wallet, sell some of his btcc etf, buy bitcoin and move it to self custody. He did it because I kept twisting his arm about it but he only converted about 20% of his holdings and acted like I was asking him to do vector calculus.
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After I posted this morning I listened to Alex Thorn on WBD. He's a smart guy who works at Galaxy and hosts the Brains podcast, I think. He is extremely optimistic, basically seeing little downside to etfs and making moonshot predictions. Let's hope my fears are unwarranted. I keep going back to the example of gold. I know it's not a perfect analogy, but fiat managed to corral it into its own little cage.
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Haven't listened to that episode yet but it is in my Queue.
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I really don't want those guys to buy bitcoin, not even holding 100sats for a week.
I want them to FUCK themselves. Bitcoin was created exactly to fuck'em'all.
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I hope I live to see the day when we can tell them: "Here you go, there's your fucking use case."
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Disagree. I want them to buy bitcoin. And then I want them to lose their keys.
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As the saying goes, everyone gets bitcoin at the price they deserve.
These people will probably be one of the last ones to "get it", because they benefit from the fiat system and has every incentive to not get it.
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I agree, and I think the U.S. will be the slowest to adopt for the same reason.
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It is possible, but I would hate for BlackRock to act as a proxy for the U.S. Government, controlling bitcoin through its price like a puppet on a string:
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how dare you disparage blackrock. so unpatriotic.
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They might be stacking, but zero humility detected.
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“adoption from the ground up is a hell of a lot more important than a bunch of rent seeking finance guys creating NGU fervor.”
A fuckin men man
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Best course is just to ignore them - Bitcoin is for everyone and you can’t stop people buying and selling bitcoin however they choose - even if to make a quick buck.
Here’s the thing though- one of two things tends to happen to people who think they can trade bitcoin -
a) the price action causes the most pain possible to the most amount of people. Let’s go to $10k and see who can stand it there- it could happen and would shake out a huge number of people believing in some form of 4 year cycle logic.
b) they make some money and get out. And then, a few years down the line they wonder if they missed something more significant, since they may never own that amount of bitcoin again as they sold before. Remember- plenty of genius’s rode Bitcoin from $50 to $500, etc
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Rather than getting upset about these guys I prefer to just observe and understand them as best I can. They exist and there's no point getting angry about it.
As far as I'm concerned their incentives entirely revolve around making their dollar balance go up. When this is your world it makes perfect sense to see Bitcoin as just another trade.
The irony is they see Bitcoin as NGU and respond by bringing more money into it causing NGU. It's self fullfilling. Then they sell it back to the speculators and the speculators sell it back to the long term holders.
In the end, the Bitcoin still lands in the hands of Bitcoiners.
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