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Sending from Blink to Phoenix - Unable to find a route

1221 sats \ 14 comments \ @MastercardMaximalist 13 Nov 2023 bitcoin

So, my friend has installed a Phoenix LN Wallet and i have a Blink wallet. When i try to send him some sats, the result is more than disappointing. Blink tells me "unable to find a route" and that is it.

In Phoenix, the settings for channel management are on "Auto Management", so there is nothing much he can do. Can somebody tell me how that should work?

Thanks in advance!

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10 sats \ 6 replies \ @DarthCoin 13 Nov 2023

Check if that Phoenix is online. Sometimes due to bad connection it could go offline. "unable to find route" is a very common error when one of the nodes is offline. I doubt that between Acinq and Blink there's are no routes available, they are 2 of the biggest nodes in the network.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @MastercardMaximalist OP 13 Nov 2023

thank you for your quick reply. i checked, phoenix says its connected to tardis.bauerj.eu but the problem remains the same

2 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 13 Nov 2023

weird electrum server... try force close phoenix and restart to connect to a new electrum server.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @MastercardMaximalist OP 14 Nov 2023

thanks for the tip, now i am connected to electrum.acinq.co, with the same result. Also tried to send from Alby - also no route possible. I guess i just throw Phoenix in the dumpster

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 14 Nov 2023

I just used today Phoenix, works perfectly for me. I think you are doing something wrong. Please explain in more details.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @MastercardMaximalist OP 15 Nov 2023

i wish i could.

i just click receive in phoenix, scan the barcode with blink, enter the amount of 10 or 100 satoshi and when i try to send it, i get the message that it is unable to find a route.

But i have uninstalled Phoenix already, i do not have much patience with wallets which dont work immediately. Looking for a better non-custodial wallet now.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 15 Nov 2023

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @BitByBit21 14 Nov 2023

Check the estimated fees and max fee amount. If this the first transaction they can be even higher for channel opening. Due to the current on-chain fees, the total fee amount can be prohibitive.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @MastercardMaximalist OP 15 Nov 2023

Thank you. The fee is being paid by the sender, means the blink wallet - it has more than enough satoshis in the wallet to pay any fees.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @ACINQ 16 Nov 2023

@BitByBit21 gave the correct answer.

The fee is being paid by the sender

Sender only pays the routing fee, not the mining fee needed to create (or increase the size of) the receiver's channel. Mining fees are paid by the receiver, deducted from the received amount.

To make the most out of self-custodial LN wallet, look at them like prepaid debit card. Load them infrequently with large amounts, then spend as you like.