I try to differentiate between straight up believing theories or just saying that they are plausible.
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Yeah, same here. Most of theories have some kernel of truth or at least plausibility but also people take them to extremes and often there are huge logic holes.
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Chem trails is one example. Yeah, the CIA in the past did experiment with spraying chemicals over cities. I forget the name of the program and which city it was. But, the common theory is that all the con-trails you see from aircraft in the sky are chemicals being sprayed on the population to keep them under control. A program of that size would be pretty hard to hide and honestly it more likely that straight up propaganda is more effective.
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A program of that size would be pretty hard to hide and honestly it more likely that straight up propaganda is more effective.
Maybe the conspiracy is to make the group that believes in chemtrails look so ridiculous that no one will believe anything they ever say again. So one day, chemtrails may indeed become a reality because we already "debunked" their existence and anyone who thinks that they are now real and brings it up is immediately silenced; cast out of society or doesn't even bring it up because they know no one will believe them
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This "conspiracy theory of conspiracy theories" is generally applicable to conspiracy theories though.
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This isn't theory. Its been done by the FBI I believe. I forget the guys name but there was a UFO researcher that was monitoring a military base and the gov was concerned he was going to leak secrets by mistake. An FBI agent was assigned to him to feed him false info so that he would get off the trail. They drove the guy crazy. I cannot for the life of me remember the name of the documentary about him. I believe the FBI agent was in the film.
Then there's was the CIA to the Soviets during the cold war. They made fake documents and spread them in the USSR. That one backfired though. Another US agency found the documents and thought they were real. They showed them to Reagan telling him look at how advanced the Soviet's weapons systems are. We need to move forward with our programs. The CIA found out and went to the other agency and told them hey, those are fake. They didn't care. The docs backed up what they wanted Reagan to do so they didn't tell him.
For a long time I have thought that many of the conspiracy theories and people that push them are operatives either knowing or unknowing of the state. To keep people focused on stupid pointless stuff. There also has been a huge push to stigmatize conspiracy theorism. It wasn't like it is now when I was a kid. There wasn't a real stigma about it.
The meta conspiracy theory lol.
We do live in a post fact world. I firmly believe facts don't matter in the current political environment and arguing about them is a complete waste of time. Though it can be entertaining. If you pay attention to politicians I don't know how you cannot agree that facts don't matter. Look at senator Karen's recent actions. People pick their facts and lies to sell what they want to sell.
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When I say they drove the guy crazy, I mean that he was institutionalized. The FBI agent sounded remorseful but also that he was doing his job. If someone knows who I'm talking about I'd love it if you could help me out. I can't find the documentary or the people's names. Been to long.
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Yes, 100% this. The best lies are indistinguishable from the truth since they contain some level of truth.
It's a mystery to me how some people can think they are so clever and totally not gullible because they didn't fall for the lies of the government. Just to straight up believe the first thing they hear that is not coming from the govs, even if that reasoning makes even less sense, lol
Those people are just NPCs who think they aren't, making them even worse than NPCs in my eyes, lol
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We needed three categories for this post: That's True, That Might Be True, and That's Ridiculous.
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