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First things first, perhaps I’m not the best person to comment on this topic. In a moment of weakness, I confessed my deepest and darkest thoughts regarding my parenting journey: #304937. I don’t enjoy the struggle.
But perhaps it’s precisely because I don’t enjoy parenting that much that what I have to share becomes valuable because I’m battling hard not to slip into an abyss of regret and loathing.
Many Stackers reached out to me and provided lots of useful suggestions. I have compiled them in this post: #308705. Since parenting is an individual journey, I just wanna add my two sats’ worth to the list.
  1. Invest in time-saving technologies
2 kids and no helper/nanny. Cleaning takes up a chunk of our everyday life, so all these new age electrical appliances will relieve some stress from the hectic routine. We got a robotic cleaner for free from a friend. Although I hardly use it, it’s comforting to know that it’s there. We do use the dishwasher and washing machine-cum-dryer every day. My wife is now contemplating a bigger dishwasher. Also, my household has bought digital locks for the front door. Honestly, I think they are are a waste of money, but if my wife derives some happiness from not having to lug keys around, I sure as hell won’t say nope.
  1. Get your shit sorted out
Not just the big things like making a will and opening savings accounts and investing into your children’s college funds. Also spend time on decluttering your life. I have not particularly succeeded at all aspects of my life, but I now know where every single piece of my clothing is. My clothes are sorted by colour. Gasp. Papers are the hardest because I work as a teacher and love to hoard resources. Still, I am working towards knowing where every document is in my home. Having exhibited more control over my mess, I find that these days, I have more resources to deploy on my kids. Bonus in my situation because I can recycle my preloved papers for a few cents in my country.
  1. Embrace the act of tidying up
You will be surprised by how fast books and toys multiply in your house. Your child will get showered with presents from well-meaning family and friends - and it’s not always easy to say nope to them. So you have to deal with their shit (metaphorical) as well. Welcome to this:
When your children are too young to clean up after themselves and your wife is burnt out doing other things, you got to rise to the occasion. What motivates me is the conviction that I want my son to feel for himself how being organised smoothens his life. He knows where his toys are because I have assigned a home for each of his prized possessions. I also pair tidying up with certain habits. Sometimes I let my mind go free and brainstorm of articles to write. Other times, I may just binge-watch Netflix. Yet other times, I will listen to podcasts on Fountain. The more you embrace tidying up, the less irritated you will get when your kids inevitably mess up.
  1. Make your kids fall in love with cleaning
Last weekend, my son just took the mop and wet wipe and mopped our living room floor. He must be observing how we clean the household every day and wants to get a piece of the action as well! Children usually find household chores fun. Keep it that way for them. The more you can lean on them, the less you need to do for them.
  1. Make sure your child learns something every day
Due to the craziness and chaos of parenting, it’s very easy to fall into the daily grind and feel like a hamster. Case in point: we used to read to our son nightly but stopped this practice after our baby girl had come into the picture. I cope better with parenting when I cultivate an atmosphere of growth. So I bring a flashcard when I pick my son up from the child care centre. Yes, just one flashcard. So my boy knows how to spell z-o-o and recognise 河马 (hippopotamus in Chinese). I feel proud and that spurs me on.
  1. Schedule meetups with your parents and children
This assuages my guilt of not spending enough time with my father. My son still wants to hold my hand at all times, but I find that just having my dad around is a breather. Find your village and activate them as often as you can.
I hope these tips help someone else out there. Hang in there.
Your child will get showered with presents from well-meaning family and friends
This is one of my biggest points of irritation. It's so much stuff and most of it is just clutter. I'm glad our daughter has plenty of toys to exercise her imaginations on, but most of it gets little use and the gifters seem to want to hear about how much she loves their gift.
I appreciate you doing these. There are plenty of unglamorous aspects to parenting and it's nice to share tricks and tips with each other.
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I feel your pain.
This year, I’m starting something new. There’s a cardinal rule in decluttering - when we bring one thing into the house, another thing must go out.
So I taught my boy the phrase “danshari”, a Japanese concept of parting with things you no longer need. I have a picture of a book titled Danshari (using it for visual impact here).
Of course, it’s hard to get a four-year-old to throw stuff, so timing is everything. I get him to Danshari one item whenever he buys a brand new item. (Aside: my father-in-law gave him $40, which can be used to buy several toys. But I don’t want to interfere with how he spends his money.)
Flushed with the excitement of wanting to play with his new toy, he obliges easily. He will select an item to throw into the waste paper basket and we will say thank you to it for all the good memories it gave us. (He is half-Japanese. That’s what Japanese people do haha)
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we will say thank you to it for all the good memories it gave us
That sounds adorable!
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1293 sats \ 6 replies \ @k00b 23 Jan
Kind of a tangent but this made me think of my aunt's parenting advice: "don't expect your children to behave differently than you do." She was saying that your main task as a parent is to be a role model and even if you're a bad role model your children will use you as one.
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My aunt's parenting advice was to treat your kids with "tender neglect." She has awesome grown up kids and so I really embraced this.
Found out years later she actually said "attended neglect" and I just misheard.
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Thank you for commenting. I suspect I will remember “attended neglect” for life. Such a profound concept expressed within two words!
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128 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 23 Jan
I'm glad those probably amount to the same thing. :)
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All roads lead to Rome, as they say
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I think that’s very true. I was raised being caned by my mum. Some form of physical violence was deemed necessary in disciplining one’s children for their generation. So once I hit my son on his hand out of frustration. He cried and complained to his mother. I have never hit him again - partly because I know he will find my wife for comfort but mostly because I don’t want him to copy my action and hit his sister out of frustration. Like it or not, children mirror our moves.
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I certainly heard about it from my daughter when I was trying to stay up past bedtime to watch the end of Chiefs/Bills. At least our emphasis on bedtime has sunk in.
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551 sats \ 1 reply \ @Natalia 23 Jan
why I'm reading this post 😆 hahha, thanks for sharing!
I want to share some of my theory parenting, and they are unverified 👀
  1. Invest in time-saving technologies
How about doing the low-tech way? Like using big carpets everywhere so the kids can climb wherever they like, and all you need is just a vacuum. ( Turkish hack!)
I'm living on my own most of the time, and I realized that the dishwasher is a bad influence, like I used to wait until I had more plates to clean, so a. I ended up buying many plates b. being lazy in the name of saving time
So now I only use two plates, 1 fork and 1 spoon, and I clean them after the meal, but of course, I don't know how things will work with kids, but I like being minimalist, not sure if it is still possible.
Get your shit sorted out
Done, I know exactly what I need and how to get the best of what I need and from whom, but that's only for myself atm, and I can even travel around the world with a 20-inch suitcase! Wondering how things would work with kids, but I guess it wouldn't be a hard problem to solve. 🤔
Embrace the act of tidying up
I always don't understand why kids need to have so many toys, those toys look the same to me... and so boring, I would love to teach the kids how to MAKE things early on, or break things then make them better:)
Make your kids fall in love with cleaning
I like cleaning, it can be quite fun, like figuring out the cleaning hacks, etc., and nothing feels better than having a clean home - if anyone ever comes to Turkey, omg, Turkish homes are the BEST, always so clean and full of beautiful details!
Make sure your child learns something every day
I don't worry too much about it because I like learning something new every day, so basically all I need is to pass it to the kids? or maybe I would even learn something new from the little one every day:)
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and beliefs on this matter. Like I said before, your opinion is just as good as mine even if you think it is unverified xP
  1. The kitchen is my wife’s territory, so I won’t intrude haha. Oh she loves her plates and dishes. After we got married, we drove for hours to this pottery town in rural Japan to buy her preferred cutlery. She really takes pride in her kitchen.
Having said that, we got a dishwasher when our second child was born. It’s easy to handle the whims of one child, not so easy when two children are competing against each other and with you. We never looked back haha.
  1. I hate travelling with my kids. When we spent one month in Japan, we returned home with two luggages, two strollers, 4-5 bags. My wife wanted to buy packets of baby food and condiments and whatever not to smoothen her life in Singapore. Hopefully I can breathe easier this December because I am hopeful that my 5-year-old boy won’t need a stroller.
I have always been a light traveller. Just the backpack on my bag. So having to take care of so many things gets on my nerves.
  1. Because my son wants to have all sorts of the same animal in different colours and shapes and sizes. He has more than 10 hippopotamuses. 🦛 Beats me why.
We do make things too. But he still likes his toys.
Attaching a picture of his portable bus.
  1. Oh I agree. My four-year-old taught me the names of different dinosaurs haha. I have never been that interested in them.
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866 sats \ 3 replies \ @kr 23 Jan
thanks for the thoughtful write-up.
points 1-3 are even good reminders for those without kids. i recently got rid of all my clothes and replaced them with a handful of black cotton hoodies, black cotton tees, and black jeans.
such a good feeling to not need to mess around with washing/drying white/color clothes in separate batches or dealing with the requirements of different fabrics. plus i free up a ton of storage space.
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Very true about how we reserve more energy for the decisions that matter when we eliminate the ones that don’t! Why black though? And do you have like different shades of black? Haha
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28 sats \ 1 reply \ @kr 23 Jan
i just figured black is the only color that’s acceptable to wear basically anywhere, and if i were to spill food on a shirt or get dirt on it, a black one would suffer the least damage. no shades for me!
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Very smart!
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Here's a tip for you as well. This works GREAT for keeping your kids jazzed about certain toys, and having less mess.
If you have a ton of toys, only keep about a quarter of them out and available for the kids to play with. Keep most of them on a high shelf somewhere.
Then, rotate regularly, like monthly. It keeps things fresh and interesting.
We had categories like toy food, musical instruments, legos, blocks, etc.
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Lovely idea! That will create more space for my children to play with (and my weary eyes to gain some respite). I realise that visual crowding is a source of stress in itself!
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Yes, it really works. And also you can do the same thing with this idea as you do with buying new toys - give up another toy.
As in - you want a box of toys from the high shelf? Sure, which box do you want to put away?
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Excellent. I think getting our kids to make decisions for themselves is the best thing we can do for them because we live in an information-saturated world
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I've got only one tip. BECOME A PARENT !?!?
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Thanks for sharing. I always want to make sure my young boys know I love them no matter what and I make sure I say that to them every day. Also physical touch is important build a bond at those young ages.
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This brought a smile to my face. My son hugs me like a small koala bear and I’m sure I will miss his hugs later on in life. Telling our children they are loved is the most important thing we can do as parents
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Well pointed mate!
Allow me please, to share wit you my (us) experriences with parenting. If I understood well, do you have 2 kids (a son and a daughter)...the situation is the same here also (our both kids are under 10 years, our son is older than our daughter). Kids room as exactly your kids room (hehe), and our daugter always want to play with all of her toys :)
About parenting...we have some "rules" (or maybe habits)...almost every day we are playing around 1 hour together (all 4) some games like Monopoly Junior, card games, Tic Tac Booom, Boom boom, Rumini, etc...so some social games.
I think the key is to find some activity for kids what they like, and you doo it to with pleasure. For exemple, we are solving some math exercices with our son (he like the math extremelly), and playing with Lego. My wife draw with our daughter, and also learning some English (daughter mostly prefer languages the math).
Besides that both of kids have some weekly activity (swimming and wall climbing).
My ideology is that we must be brave to be different than other parents, and to "synchronize" the activities with our kids preference in such a way to serve the child's development.
I honestly confess, that is possible to raise (idk if this expression is ok...hopefully you understand what I want to say) the childs based on books...but EVERY kid needs a separately book :)
Thanks for reading & have a nice day!
Enjoy the company of your kids :)
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Hi kurszusz!
Thanks for sharing about your family and habits. I love that you put your children at the centre of everything you do. I think putting our kids first will make us immune against the societal noise. It’s kinda like buying Bitcoin, regardless of what society thinks, huh?
I look forward to the day where my entire family can play board games like yours. Sounds fun!
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Yes, it make us immune against strange things/ habits of our days... It is not easy to be a parent, and it is more difficult to be a good parent I think. My vision is that kids are the best long term investment, because we will know just after several years if we did a good job as parents. But we must admit the risk, and try our best so that investment to be a good investment for us, for them, and for society also.
Btw...our kids are really enjoying board games, because they feel it that they are parts of something (family)
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Some Stacker mentioned how children and Bitcoin are low time-preference assets. It captured my imagination so much that I wrote about it here: #319060
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I wish I had time to respond to this fully but sitting here typing isn't going to pay my bills, sadly. I stumbled across your Burnt out father post a few days ago (no idea how) and it broke my heart and I wanted to write something then. I just want to say that you don't have to force learning onto your child. You don't have "make sure" they learn something. They learn soooo much through play. Just relax with them, play with them, read with them, build things, make things with them, make some playdough (recipes online) and keep it in the fridge, embrace the mess, just have fun and don't overthink it, accept that your life will never be the same again. I don't know how to find a nice way of saying this but putting your kids in a cage like that makes me feel so sad for them. Like they're not part of the family or house, or not worthy and have to be kept separate 😰
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Thank you for holding space for me in your mind! Will check that book out
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Hi, mate.
So I’m ENFP and we are physical hugs people. Your words felt like a virtual hug across the miles. I hope you could give me a comforting hug in real life too haha
For better or for worse, I hail from Singapore, an academically competitive country. First graders in elementary school are expected to read, write and count when they report to school on the first day. It’s crazy 🤪. I recognise the benefits of spontaneous, unsupervised play. Because my son is half-Japanese, he spends the school holidays in Singapore attending preschool in Japan. But I don’t think he finds it torturing. He rides the tricycle, goes on strawberry and chestnut picking outings, and plays catching. No formal teaching. He doesn’t even learn the hiragana alphabet!
But it’s okay. As long as he is carefree.
I think I am decidedly more chill than other Singapore parents. I haven’t sent my son for enrichment classes yet. Yes that’s what people do - send their preschool kids for tuition. I think it’s f***ed up. I am determined to delay tuition for as long as I can.
About the playpen, it’s aimed to keep my baby girl safe since my wife and I will be busy doing the thousand and one chores before we can call it a night. Don’t worry about her. These days, because she knows how to walk, she has been advocating for herself, crying and screaming until I let her out of the playpen and a spunky grin spreads across her face. Indeed, we are born to be free. Haha
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We don’t go to parenting school…
and u realise quickly we and our own parents were “winging it on the fly”
it’s ok to ask for help about how to parent different from our own traditions lol
U got this parents 💜
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Someone told me here that our aim should just be to screw our kids less than our parents screwed us. I always found that a great maxim to live by haha
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28 sats \ 1 reply \ @bzzzt 23 Jan
Solid write up, 🤙
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Thanks, mate
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