No bullshit, drama, shitcoinery, e-celebs, censorship etc. And utilizes the Lightning Network with value for value?! This is like a dream platform.
143 sats \ 1 reply \ @jp 6 Jul 2022
it does. GTFO twitter - it makes life way better
EDIT: there are also a ton of simps on twitter which is pretty annoying.
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I second this. Getting off Twitter improved my day to day.
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It also has much higher information density than r/bitcoin, I never go there anymore. So much noise and ads and crap.
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250 sats \ 2 replies \ @a 6 Jul 2022
We need more memes here though...
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The hell we do! Go start coinmemes.news if that's what you're here for.
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I miss bitcoin before the memes. Can we have 1 platform without memes and toxicity like the 2013 era?
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I hate that sub along with reddit in general. A huge waste of time.
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I can't stand reddit, it's a shell of its former self. Aaron Swartz' unfortunate passing really sowed its demise.
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oh yeah. This is way better when you need sats to reply/comment
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This. It filters out a lot of low-effort spam and doomposting.
I have a different opinion. I check Bitcoin Reddit more than twitter because its where you will find a good inflow of very new users. Bitcoin Twitter is where most of the conversation happens, but Bitcoin Reddit is where you can get a strong feel for new user sentiment.
Stacker news is going to have the least noise for now, because it is an entire platform dedicated to one thing. But it is an echo chamber, or a "safe space".
I also check other subreddits like technology to see what the sentiment is and if I can detect any measurable change.
Checking for sentiment and noting if it has changed or not, or is slowly shifting, helps you determine where the wider conversation among no coiners is leading, and that is important. How can you convert people to Bitcoin without understanding why they dislike it to begin with?
Everyone in Bitcoin would do well to avoid a diet of echo chambers, it only builds a community that is no different from any other echo chamber you may disagree with.
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So have you seen any sentiment shift?
I can confirm that this is a positive experience so far. The UI is clean and easy to use with still some room for improvement to make it feel smooth and intuitive. Any excuse to use Lightning is good to me, enjoying less spam and less ego posts here than in Twitter.
I believe that some phone screen aspect ratios don't look great and an app instead of browser would be good to see.
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Yeah, I think so too, straight forward to use
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Agreed
Its like a curated twitter feed
I think its because you need a few sats to post on SN so more than 90% of the people here are bitcoiners
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Often it's literally a curated Twitter feed...
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Twitter is a legacy social network.
It doesn't even have native lightning wallets
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yes and also the discussions are peaceful and intelligent. twitter is fine but bitcoin twitter is a nightmare
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Oh definitely!
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Indeed it does, because no one here is chasing followers and clout, we here to discuss. I've seen a few people come here to try the twitter style of posting and they get curb stomped
Great discussions going on here and a lot less cheerleading
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It will come eventually as the platform grows, stacker news is currently living the pre eternal September phase
I hope that by the time the noise arrives we will be able to. filter it out
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I'm thinking the current incentive structure for SN will create instances where people will optimize for the most clickbait-y type of links and articles. I hope there's a system to deal with that should SN get traction.
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That's a fair concern
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How do you think we should deal with clickbaity links?
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That is a hard question. I've been giving it some thought since I posted that comment. I don't think moderation is a good idea and I would rather have the open market dictate the posts that float to the top. I think the current system works for filtering low-effort spam and I would like it to continue that way. One reason why I dislike reddit is that its structure is conducive in creating echo chambers where the "most popular" opinion for that particular subreddit floats to the top and any dissenting or controversial ones fade into their own small bubbles. The idea that I'm thinking at the moment is to not let the amount of stacked sats dictate the position of a post in any shape or form and only sort posts by their most recent activity. Clicking that lightning button should just be a form of "Thank you for your contribution to the discussion"-kind of thing and anti-spam. That way, people will not game the system for profit.
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Clickbaity links aren't rewarded with sats unless the user decided to tip based only on the link title, which I think is unlikely, simply sorting by tipped amount should filter out all the noise.
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Reposting from my reply below:
In terms of moderation, I think it would be good to do something along the lines of the "Orange Checkmark" in that users post sats to get "Verified" and through that mechanism allowing the community to enforce moderation.
So for instance, you need to post 100,000 Sats to get verified, and if you break the rules of the forum people can report you. If it is found that you did break the rules, you will be docked sats from your verification. The docked fee could then be split amongst the reporter and the platform in order to fund the moderation at the platform level and incentivize reporting at the user level.
This could be implemented for both the posts and the comments and would likely take care of the vast majority of spam.
The longer the bear market, the longer this should last
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Helpfully yes, this will help the platform unironically
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I wonder how many here actually know what eternal September means? I would bet an even smaller number of people actually participated in it or saw it happen.
Indeed. I check it first every morning.
I just wish there was a mobile app to let me check it from bed too. (Hint hint guys!)
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Absolutely, but has more to do with the fact that only Bitcoiners are on here and it has not gone mainstream yet. Though I hope once it does, there will be less spam if there are no free comments
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Haha. Twitter is infected with shitcoiners, Ethereum ppl being the worst. The point of Bitcoin is that it is purely an energy-based money -- that's the real innovation. Nothing needs to be "smart" about it. Or at least not the base functionality
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It makes sense, having to pay sats to post is a decent anti-spam mechanism. One thing I noticed about the reply mechanism is it costs more and more sats to keep posting on the same reply level. I did it once out of excitement, wasn't even trying to spam. Another clever feature.
Even if someone loads up on sats and tries to spam, they're giving away precious sats for nonsense. And SN can always do some kind of moving average based on activity to make malicious behaviour even more costly in terms of BTC.
Very impressed with Stacker News, the email newsletter is one of the few newsletters I get that I actually check out. I was already a Bitcoin supporter but this site really got me on the path of LN and what's possible. Podcasting 2.0 also very cool. In general, kudos and respect to @koob for making something cool, old school, highly performant, etc etc. <3 This site always loads very fast and has never crapped out on me, or had strange UX. <3
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Yes I think all of us can agree on this post!
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The benefits of a relatively small community over time it may change but let's continue to be excellent to each other regardless
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Yes: Stacker News > Reddit > Twitter in term of signal to noise, or even trigger ability.
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of course it has, twitter is trash
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I think this is a very good platform idd. Also has an early reddit vibe.
Signal is better here, but that's also because this community is small. As communities grow in size, they start to have more noise. This happens on every, single social network. In the beginning the site is great, the community is close knit, and people have an actual sense of community. The word gets out, people want to partake in said community, and as a result the community starts to dissolve. Enjoy it while it lasts!
Yeah man I’m new here but immediately felt it
This does feel like the future. I think there are some systems that will need to be put in place moving forward, but with any innovation it's hard to foresee what will come.
In terms of moderation, I think it would be good to do something along the lines of the "Orange Checkmark" in that users post sats to get "Verified" and through that mechanism allowing the community to enforce moderation.
So for instance, you need to post 100,000 Sats to get verified, and if you break the rules of the forum people can report you. If it is found that you did break the rules, you will be docked sats from your verification. The docked fee could then be split amongst the reporter and the platform in order to fund the moderation at the platform level and incentivize reporting at the user level.
This could be implemented for both the posts and the comments and would likely take care of the vast majority of spam.
I visit stacker.news when bitcoin twitter feels depressing. Its my secret escape. shhhh..... ;)
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the ideal platform for discovery!
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только по делу...
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Try it in RSS.