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This post is the fifth in an experimental Stoic Philosophy book club series on Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. Participants expressing interest are tagged at the end of the post, let us know if you're new and would like to join and be tagged!
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Book 5

Summary and Highlights

Not gonna lie, it's been a challenge to motivate myself to get going on this, so I'll lead off with Marcus' initial quote for Book 5 in #1,
At dawn, when you have trouble getting out of bed, tell yourself, "I have to go to work -- as a human being. What do I have to complain of, if I'm going to do what I was born for -- the things I was brought into the world to do?"
You don't love yourself enough. Or you'd love your nature too, and what it demands of you.
The nature he is referring to is the nature of being human. The challenge to rise out of bed and face the day is not just getting to work with a 9-5 occupation, but facing all the trials and tribulations of a fully human experience, and that is our real "work".
  1. To shrug it all off and wipe it clean -- every annoyance and distraction -- and reach utter stillness. Child's play.
This quote is certainly motivating, but what sticks out to me here is the sharp contrast against my understanding of the general worldview of Eastern spirituality. To risk a gross generalization, the West has more emphasis on the individual and exploring the boundary between what we have agency over versus what we don't, while the East holds a larger perspective. The Western man is king of his domain wielding his will with wisdom, while the Eastern man contemplates his existence as a grain of cosmic dust, knowing all things pass away. That Eastern approach can sometimes make taking action feel meaningless, so reading Meditations to rebalance myself with some more initiative is one of my intentions.
  1. No one could ever accuse you of being quick-witted... Practice the virtues you can show: honesty, gravity, endurance, austerity, resignation, abstinence, patience, sincerity, moderation, seriousness, high-mindedness.
As well as the sage advice of leaning into our strengths instead of dwelling in our weaknesses, I find this passage interesting it's unique window into Marcus' understanding of himself. I assume the list of virtues reflects how he sees his own strengths. This was a diary, remember.
  1. Some people, when they do someone a favor, are always looking for a chance to call it in. and some aren't, but they're still aware of it -- still regard it as a debt. But others don't even do that. They're like a vine that produces grapes without looking for anything in return... We should be like that. Acting almost unconsciously. Yes. Except conscious of it.
Marcus is observing people who constantly help others here, and in it, he is revealing a take on human nature. He is positing that human nature is collaborative and cooperative. I confess, I resonate with the second group often -- keeping an internal ledger in my head at times. Sometime I feel guilty about that. However, when we can get out of our own way, perhaps generosity flows naturally. To me, this is part of a theme exploring human nature emerging in Book 5.
  1. Say this: "Nature prescribed illness for him." Or blindness. Or the loss of a limb. Or whatever. There "prescribed" means something like "ordered, so as to further his recovery." And so too here. What happens to each of us is ordered. It furthers our destiny.
No nature would do that -- bring something about that wasn't beneficial to what it governed.
The whole passage is a banger and worth the full read. It really reflects the Stoic reverence of the logos, or ordering principle. It carries an obvious dis-identification with the physical body. What may be harmful for the body is experiential medicine for the soul. Marcus' clear and revelatory exposition carries an inspiring sense of devotion.
He carries on,
Celebrate behaving like a human... Not showing off your obedience to the logos, but resting in it.
Again, we have this Western embrace of the human condition, but instead of casting "utter stillness" as "child's play" like in #2, Marcus seems to be coming to a greater sense of balance when he uses the word "resting". Maybe I'm reading too much into the minutia?
  1. Nothing pertains to human beings except what defines us as human. No other things can be demanded of us.
Well, isn't this comforting. Just as I finished kicking myself for not getting out of bed, lacking initiative and underachieving for my age, Marcus reins it back in a little with a reminder to accept my human limitations. With both this quote and the one prior to it in #15, I sense a subtle shift in his writing to be discussed later.
  1. The thoughts you think determine the quality of your mind. Your soul takes on the color of your thoughts... Things gravitate toward what they were intended for. What things gravitate toward is their goal.
This section is worth the full read as well, and is a logical exposition step-by-step leading through a theory objectified something like: thoughts -> mind -> goal -> good -> unselfishness -> consciousness -> logos. I read this that goodness and virtue are natural qualities of humanity and in our evolutionary path, we are gravitating toward embodying them. Human life is still a messy process, and evolving to know and embody what is good is necessarily bound up with errors, mistakes and pain. But success and the final goal is inevitable. Something echoed in Buddhist meditation retreats as well.
  1. Nothing happens to anyone that he can't endure.
This is a deep conviction I've developed over the last 10 years or so, and it's a conviction that gets increasingly tested, and increasingly proven correct. I have this tendency to want to treat many aspects of life with a scientific certainty -- to wrap things up into a nice final package, complete a task conclusively, "to be done with it". I think this principle is suggesting something similar to what Jesus may have meant when he said, "to whom much is given, much will be required." Once we get comfortable in life, achieving a degree of balance and mastery over our domain, we are given more -- and that can look like more blessings, more responsibility, or more challenging circumstances. If we see all experiences of life as opportunities to grow, medicine for the soul as Marcus suggests, that desire for completion becomes an unreality represented by Death. I'll end with this quote, although there is a lot more to Book 5.

Reflection

Overall, Book 5 carried an interesting investigation of human nature for me. Marcus is both exploring what it is to be human, and embracing what that means. As with some of the prior books, and in the spirit of a diary, I see a sort of progression in his writing and understanding. There seems to be a bigger sense of polarity and intensity near the beginning. Then the length, excitement and inspiration found in #8 suggest he's had an epiphany or revelation in thought. And his later comments feel like they are balancing and harmonizing, integrating a new perspective. In general, Marcus is discovering philosophically a divine nature of humanity, embracing it further and trusting it for both guidance and a sense of meaning. It feels like the philosophical direction to Know Thyself leads to a philosophical revelation of Love for Thyself. Something many of us can use more of.
Now I'm happy that I got out of bed and finally finished up this post.

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97 sats \ 0 replies \ @Taft 13 Mar
I would like to highlight the quote 5:25:
So other people hurt me? That's their problem. Their character and actions are not mine.
I love this quote. It's not that easy to cultivate this way of thinking, but it's really healthy thinking, believing, and living in such a way. It's not your responsibility for others' harmful behavior towards you. Their behavior stems from their own problems.
You get a lot of peace of mind from this mindset, I think.
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63 sats \ 1 reply \ @Oialt 10 Mar
I am new! How do I get tagged?
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Welcome! I'll tag you in next week's post :) Feel free to add in the comments if you're already reading.
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At the risk of being too literal, I have trouble with #18. First the obvious challenge: the example of an adverse event that kills the person. Are we to take that as completion, or just assume the point is meant for the living? I'm thinking more though, about horrible things that occur to people that don't kill them, but put them into such a mental state that their lives are a slow descent. I've read stoic texts elsewhere where a person is advised to imagine the worst thing they can think of happening to them, short of death, in order to imagine yourself living through that circumstance. Personally, I can always think of one that I am certain I cannot endure.
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Before becoming a father, I was of the principle that there is nothing that a good night’s sleep can’t cure. After becoming one, however, I think it would be devastating if children die before their time. A few years ago, a 16-year-old teenager killed a child 3 years his junior at school in a case that shocked the whole nation. I think if I were the 13 year old’s parents, I will never recover from that
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I don't have kids, so I can't really comment on this scenario without a high degree of ignorance. It is worth noting, however, that Marcus lost more than a few of his own kids :(
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Well let me comment on your scenario then xP. Is there any particular challenge you would be able to handle now but might overwhelm you in the past because you haven’t honed your meditation competency yet?
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I've been sitting with your question trying to come up with a thoughtful answer, but it's a bit nuanced.
I actually got into meditation after having some incredibly overwhelming life experiences which I didn't think I would make it through at the time. Meditation helped me integrate those experiences, but has also shown me that while certain traumas seemed life-threatening, I was challenged just exactly to my breaking point -- where I survived, but was absolutely forced to grow. I see the logos in this today, a super-ordinate wisdom of Nature which brings me exactly what I need, even if I don't think I can handle it.
I think a common misconception regarding meditation is that the more proficient you are, the more blissful, happy and peaceful life is. And while experiencing those states is certainly part of the process, I find that fundamentally, meditation is increasing awareness and that includes the awareness of both pleasure and pain. Everything in life becomes simultaneously more beautiful, but also more painful, or maybe I see pain that I wasn't aware of before. However, with more life experience and more practice, a kind of faith grows that for each new challenge that gets thrown at me, it will be for my own Good, even if it's unpleasant, painful or a messy process.
I wouldn't call myself necessarily proficient even, but this is my perspective for where I'm currently at.
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Amazing. What an incredible answer.
It made me realise that I have gotten the idea of meditation all wrong. I assumed that it is akin to attaining some kind of Nirvana. That I toughen my mind n spirit to acquire spiritual armour so that the arrows that Life throws at me will just get deflected. Your sharing made me realise that darn, these arrows still pierce one’s soul and oh boy, do they hurt. But because of your ritualised practice, you feel confident about living with the pain. Maybe it isn’t even about conquering the pain? Because the pain is transient - just like pleasure. All things shall pass.
@Oialt just awarded me a 1000 sat bounty, which I’m more than happy to share with you!
Do you know the next level you want to ascend to?
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Aw, shucks Sensei... What a kind and generous response!
I assumed that it is akin to attaining some kind of Nirvana. That I toughen my mind n spirit to acquire spiritual armour so that the arrows that Life throws at me will just get deflected.
This view is familiar to me also, especially a few years ago -- and I think there is value to it. Meditation is a personal journey, and I can see how my perspective has changed a bit with time and practice.
Do you know the next level you want to ascend to?
Moreso and moreso, I feel like I'm letting go of controlling or directing where the practice takes me. Of course, there were times when I wanted to be a very powerful yogi, heal the world, or become the next Buddha -- powerful fantasies :) But I think I'm more in touch these last years with Marcus' message when he talks about accepting Fate, accepting the tasks granted to me and trying to do my best with those. The path is now more of a discovery than a self-created plan for achieving enlightenment or something.
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Ohhh interesting how meditation allows for plurality of paths haha
Wouldn’t you know? My first nym is faterider, as in riding the tides of fate. Your view agrees well with my free-spirited nature.
What do you make of Sigmund Freud’s “The Theme of the 3 Caskets”? He explains that the names of the three goddesses of fate mean “the accidental within the decrees of destiny,” “the inevitable,” and “the fateful tendencies each one of us brings into the world.”
Exactly where I was going. It's a tragedy I can't even think about. I have a friend who calls himself a stoic and we have discussed this. He says that is the one thing he won't even let himself consider. This past week another friend's daughter died suddenly. She was the mother of a one year old child. To compound the suffering, his daughter could have been easily saved but for the incompetence of the first responders. Her death was on videotape from his ring doorbell surveillance camera.
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