Best way to obfuscate coins on Lightning? \ stacker news ~lightning

Best way to obfuscate coins on Lightning?

3886 sats \ 22 comments \ @kytt 11 Mar lightning

Is there an equivalent to whirlpool or something even better?

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572 sats \ 13 replies \ @DarthCoin 11 Mar

Through even a single LN channel you can pass through an infinite number of sats / txs. Just think about that. Even SN can be a nice way to "coinjoin" your sats...

Read more guides here:

52 sats \ 0 replies \ @ch0k1 11 Mar

I have to quit my job to have enough time for all your guides 🙂

Nice job man 👏

53 sats \ 0 replies \ @TNStacker 11 Mar

Read @DarthCoin's guides!!!

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @txt 11 Mar freebie

bookmarked 📚

10 sats \ 8 replies \ @030e0dca83 11 Mar

The question is, will we have opportunity to send our sats to mainnet?

79 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 11 Mar

I think you do not understand what is LN and how it works. LN IS on mainnet. Is actually just not-yet broadcast onchain txs.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @030e0dca83 11 Mar

Xactly. My intermediate level of English doesn't give me a chance to describe what I want. I know that LN is 2of2 multisig under the hood. I wanted to know about opportunity to broadcast it

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @tolot 12 Mar

The fact that it is a 2-of-2 multisig is relevant only because the UTXO - that is actually the channel - must be spendable only if both parties agree on that or some other conditions are verified (like in force closure). The onchain broadcasting actually happens automatically once you or the counterparty decide to close the channel, which can happen whenever you need to (that is the game theoretical assumption behind the security model of LN and the reason why it is actually a self sovreign protocol).

21 sats \ 4 replies \ @tomlaies 11 Mar

What do you mean by that?

If you mean swapping Bitcoin on Lightning for Bitcoin onchain, that service already exsists e.g. from https://boltz.exchange/

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @030e0dca83 11 Mar

I mean add here button "send it to my segwit wallet"

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @tomlaies 11 Mar

Yeah, you can do exactly that with boltz

39 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 11 Mar

No. Not like that. Use the 3 levels stash method: hodl, cache, spending (LN). So sats from SN you should pass them through a cache level or swap service, then into a hodl wallet.

Read those guides I posted above and also these one:

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @030e0dca83 11 Mar

Many thanks Darth

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @Nuttall 11 Mar

When you have a LN channel you are only using the UTXO of the host and you. As you go back and forth those sats don't go anywhere.

When you close you may get some of those host sats or the host gets yours. So it's not really mixing but it's obfuscation and time locks.

42 sats \ 0 replies \ @justBrian 11 Mar freebie

on chain mixing is pretty silly once you figure out practical ways to obfuscate your ownership with robosats/liquid/lightning.

and im considering a threat level of a normal person not Jason Bourne

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 11 Mar

Make the Bitcoin spin round round round round and round

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 11 Mar

Cashu is probably the closest thing to coinjoin for Lightning. But as others have pointed out, LN already has pretty good privacy if you are using it correctly.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @StoneCodlHodl 11 Mar

MANY channels. Make it neigh-impossible to account

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @pako 11 Mar

Do the Boltzjoin, open a big-ass channel to Boltz, swap funds to new wallet using Boltz, refill either by swap or by using another LN wallet to refill the channel, rinse and repeat.

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SaToSHiWoMaN 12 Mar outlawed

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