18 sats \ 21 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Apr \ parent \ on: "Should Congress Stop Funding the War in Ukraine?" Yes! econ
Color revolution or coup
USA and Europe supported the coup
It was revolution, because it had popular support. Coup is when small group of people take over without popular support, like bolsheviks did in Russia in 1917.
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A revolution that was provoked by EU and USA
Zelensky has not been topped because of aid from USA. Once money stops flowing he will be deposed via coup or revolution.
Many people are leaving Ukraine. Not a revolution but abandonment. Men are leaving because they don’t want to fight or die.
Without men Ukraine will lose regardless of money and military aid from USA
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Toppled not topped
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A revolution that was provoked by EU and USA
Yes, and collapse of Soviet Union was also provoked by USA, right? Or maybe people just didn't want to live like that anymore. Ok, maybe getting information about people abroad living differently is provocation, then yes.
Many people are leaving Ukraine. Not a revolution but abandonment. Men are leaving because they don’t want to fight or die.
That is happening everywhere. Some people just don't want to fight. Millions of Russians are leaving their country too. Still have Russian friends in Moscow, they are planning to leave, it's just not so simple right now, leaving Ukraine is simpler.
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Of course the Soviet Union collapse was provoked by USA.
That was the goal of the Cold War.
That’s a bad analogy for Maidan Revolution
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There was no need for provocations, I grew up as a kid with teachings from parents and grandparents and grandgrandparents that Soviet Union is evil and Latvia will become free again some day (and you could get in trouble with KGB for talking such things back then). Same for most other non-Russians in USSR.
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Soviet Union lost Cold War.
Warsaw Pact dissolved.
Baltic States gained independence.
Ukraine gained independence.
Everything was fine until Euromaidan 2014
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No, it wasn't. Georgia 2008? Putin should have been stopped back then.
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According to academic Martin Malek, western countries did not feel it was necessary to aggravate tensions with Russia over "tiny and insignificant" Georgia.
My mistake
I forgot about 2008 in Georgia 🇬🇪
Why did Russia invade Georgia?
NATO membership potential
Stop extending NATO membership to former Soviet states and war can be averted!
Georgia invasion was 30 days or less
What was the reason for revolution?
EU and NATO membership
Russia will never accept Ukraine nation backed by western great powers
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NATO membership wasn't idea back in the day, whole thing was about association agreement with EU.
Ukraine itself has potential to become regional great power. That's, I think, is one of the reasons why military aid is given only for Ukraine not to lose, not enough for the fast win. As militarily Ukraine already could beat Germany, for example (they destroyed more Russian tanks in the first week of full scale Russian invasion than German army has in working condition).
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Ukraine is too poor and corrupt to become a great regional power
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